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Harbor Freight Generator #4534388
10/05/17 07:39 AM
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Baltimore, MD
racer12306 Offline OP
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A coworker had a little 800W 2 stroke generator sitting around. It used to work fine, but lately he wasn't able get it started so asked if I wanted it. I'm a little more mechanically inclined than he is I believe, so I took it home yesterday to see if I will be able to get it running.

Should be a fun project this weekend.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534391
10/05/17 07:41 AM
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Upstate NY
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Don't spend too much $$ on getting it working.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534392
10/05/17 07:41 AM
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Onondaga County
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It's the fuel shutoff.

The one on mine doesn't work 100%. If I leave it off for more than a week with the fuel "on", it won't start unless I pull the plug and clean it off. And spray in some starting fluid.

OR ... the fuel is shut off and you are trying to start it. Mine will run with the fuel shut off ... but won't be able to get enough fuel to restart.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534424
10/05/17 08:06 AM
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Waco, TX
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I fix a lot of these.

Usually just a gummed up carb from ethanol fuel.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534431
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Jupiter, Florida
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Known issues include crummy original spark plug, fuel line degradation and fuel shut off valve failure.

These things should be addressed even on new machines!


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534434
10/05/17 08:23 AM
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Port Orange, Florida
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80% of the time it's a dirty carb due to ethanol and failure to treat the gas.
I had one bad spark plug once in a Honda that threw me for a loop because that never happens until it did.



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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534447
10/05/17 08:32 AM
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Hudson, NH
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I'm not a fan of Seafoam in a modern auto engine, but for this project I think you should consider using it. Drain the tank, add fresh gas with the Seafoam in it. Then try getting it running. In addition to some lube and cleaners, the IPA removes water and seems to give small engines an octane boost.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534515
10/05/17 10:05 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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There is a bolt with a 10mm head that holds the bowl onto the carb. take it and the bowel off. then poke wire through the jets etc. That and get ride of the chinese spark plug.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534573
10/05/17 11:44 AM
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Like any cheap Chinese import OPE, the plastic and rubber parts are the weakest areas. Replacement carburetors and recoil assemblies are cheap and easy to mail order. Check the spark plug on it too. It's probably the original no-name piece of garbage. Replace it with a name brand, try fresh pre-mix and give it a go. Luckily these are pretty simple and cheap enough to keep a new one in the box for when you need it. These little 800-1000w guys are nice to have. They're fairly quiet and fuel efficient for a 2-stroke.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534678
10/05/17 01:54 PM
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Slovenia EU
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Old 2stroke gasoline....2strokes are very sensitive here! Or gunked carburetor!


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4534732
10/05/17 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: racer12306
A coworker had a little 800W 2 stroke generator sitting around. It used to work fine, but lately he wasn't able get it started so asked if I wanted it. I'm a little more mechanically inclined than he is I believe, so I took it home yesterday to see if I will be able to get it running.

Should be a fun project this weekend.


If it has reliable spark and reasonable compression Clean the carb.and the exhaust. Also replace the spark plug if the spark isn't there or weak.

Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: Panzerman] #4534738
10/05/17 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
80% of the time it's a dirty carb due to ethanol and failure to treat the gas.
I had one bad spark plug once in a Honda that threw me for a loop because that never happens until it did.


Stangely enough, I had two recent incidents with spark plug failure. My Jonsereds 630 chain saw wouldn't fire so I swapped out the plug from my 670 and the 630 fired right up.

This spring, my 2006 Arctic Cat 500 failed to fire after sitting all winter. I changed the plug and it fired right up. Considering my decades of experience with dozens of pieces of equipment and only one previous spark plug failure some 30 years ago, I found this to be very unusual. To make things even more perplexing was that both plugs were NGKs.

Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4535386
10/06/17 11:37 AM
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Baltimore, MD
racer12306 Offline OP
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Thanks for the tips.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4551773
10/23/17 08:09 AM
10/23/17 08:09 AM
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Baltimore, MD
racer12306 Offline OP
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Minor update, haven't had a bunch of time work really dig in, but I have done a couple diagnostic things that lead me to believe the carburetor needs a good cleaning.

I drained the tank and dumped some TruFuel in it and it will start and run on starting fluid but won't run on it's own.


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Re: Harbor Freight Generator [Re: racer12306] #4552472
10/23/17 08:38 PM
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Watertown, New York
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Avoid using starting fluid in a 2 stroke. Since there is no oil in it like there is with 2 stroke mixed fuel, it is basically like running the engine with no oil.


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