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#4531166 - 10/01/17 01:07 PM Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Which is worse?

Truck is a 1994 Ford IDI factory turbo F250 with 84k miles, in perfect condition. I'm always looking for reasons to drive it, but so far this year I've only put about 1800mi on it. It sits around a lot.

I sometimes drive it to work, but it's only 2 miles from my house, so it doesn't get up to temp. When I need it to work, I work it hard (heavy loads/towing), but otherwise it sits or gets short tripped. I don't have time to drive it just for fun.

Currently has about 1500mi on delo synthetic 5w40, which I'll likely leave in until at least next year. Severe service interval is 2500mi, "normal" interval is 5k miles.

So what say you, bitog? Short trip it or let it sit?



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#4531178 - 10/01/17 01:24 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 4838
Loc: Houston, Texas
Why not ride your bike to work? Honestly it's not going to hurt it.
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#4531179 - 10/01/17 01:25 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Only my opinion but short tripping of under 20 miles is best avoided since these trucks take so long to get up to operating temp.
1) The batteries never have a chance to recover the voltage used in starting and cycling glow plugs.
2) The engine and transmission never have a chance to get up to operating temp and burn off condensation and fuel.

I don't see any harm with leaving in the DELO 400 5w40 as long it is the LE variety. As you mention it is full synthetic and is actually good for 5,000 miles severe duty according to most Powerstroke forums.

BTW, you have a great looking low miles truck.
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#4531181 - 10/01/17 01:30 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
Why not ride your bike to work? Honestly it's not going to hurt it.


I do normally ride my bike haha. Unless it's over 100 degrees, raining, or I have errands to run after work or at lunch

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#4531200 - 10/01/17 01:53 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: ArcticDriver]
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Only my opinion but short tripping of under 20 miles is best avoided since these trucks take so long to get up to operating temp.
1) The batteries never have a chance to recover the voltage used in starting and cycling glow plugs.
2) The engine and transmission never have a chance to get up to operating temp and burn off condensation and fuel.

I don't see any harm with leaving in the DELO 400 5w40 as long it is the LE variety. As you mention it is full synthetic and is actually good for 5,000 miles severe duty according to most Powerstroke forums.

BTW, you have a great looking low miles truck.


My concern with leaving it parked (often for a month+) is the crank settling into the bearings and causing excess wear on start up. The longer it sits, the more clackety it sounds when I fire it up, which I'm sure is valve train noise also, but it makes me cringe.

Yes it is the Delo LE synthetic, and thank you. It was a once in a lifetime find, got it from the original owner several years back with only 73k miles!

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#4531209 - 10/01/17 02:02 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
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Go on a scenic route to work instead of the 2 miles.
Leave a little early or come back after work in a scenic route aka longer route.
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#4531212 - 10/01/17 02:08 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: ArcticDriver]
gathermewool Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 5987
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Only my opinion but short tripping of under 20 miles is best avoided since these trucks take so long to get up to operating temp.
1) The batteries never have a chance to recover the voltage used in starting and cycling glow plugs.
2) The engine and transmission never have a chance to get up to operating temp and burn off condensation and fuel.

I don't see any harm with leaving in the DELO 400 5w40 as long it is the LE variety. As you mention it is full synthetic and is actually good for 5,000 miles severe duty according to most Powerstroke forums.

BTW, you have a great looking low miles truck.


+1 on all counts.

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#4531232 - 10/01/17 02:42 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: JMJNet]
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: JMJNet
Go on a scenic route to work instead of the 2 miles.
Leave a little early or come back after work in a scenic route aka longer route.


The problem with that is, in order to get any significant miles on it, I'd have to get on the freeway, which is very close to me, but is ridiculous traffic before and after my work hours, and even on surface streets in the area.

So much so that riding my bike to work takes only a few minutes longer than driving.

I try to use it for family activities on weekends, but with a 3 year old to cart around, it's a lot more convenient to use my wife's Forester. Although she does like us using it in the summer, as it has the best AC out of all our vehicles.

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#4531259 - 10/01/17 03:26 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Seventh


My concern with leaving it parked (often for a month+) is the crank settling into the bearings and causing excess wear on start up. The longer it sits, the more clackety it sounds when I fire it up, which I'm sure is valve train noise also, but it makes me cringe.



I can appreciate that concern.

I wonder if someone can suggest an oil that offers superior long-term adhesion.

If you are unable to set aside 30 minutes early Saturday/Sunday every 2-3 weeks then I think plugging in the block heater 2-3 hours before start-up might help the oil flow more quickly immediately after start-up.
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#4531332 - 10/01/17 04:38 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Seventh


The problem with that is, in order to get any significant miles on it, I'd have to get on the freeway, which is very close to me, but is ridiculous traffic before and after my work hours, and even on surface streets in the area.



One other consideration would be to turn off the O/D when you do drive since it will result in higher RPMs and reaching operating temp in fewer miles.
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#4531425 - 10/01/17 06:17 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
Boczech Offline


Registered: 11/19/05
Posts: 467
Loc: Norcal
Originally Posted By: Seventh
Which is worse?

Truck is a 1994 Ford IDI factory turbo F250 with 84k miles, in perfect condition. I'm always looking for reasons to drive it, but so far this year I've only put about 1800mi on it. It sits around a lot.

I sometimes drive it to work, but it's only 2 miles from my house, so it doesn't get up to temp. When I need it to work, I work it hard (heavy loads/towing), but otherwise it sits or gets short tripped. I don't have time to drive it just for fun.

Currently has about 1500mi on delo synthetic 5w40, which I'll likely leave in until at least next year. Severe service interval is 2500mi, "normal" interval is 5k miles.

So what say you, bitog? Short trip it or let it sit?





Good looking rig you have there. I would take it out on a trip and run it if you plan on keeping it. Napa area one weekend then the Sierra's , etc.
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#4531439 - 10/01/17 06:25 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
totegoat Offline


Registered: 12/21/11
Posts: 1262
Loc: Ca
Running it once a month up to operating temp would be better than short tripping. Use lower gears to reach temp quicker.

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#4531455 - 10/01/17 06:36 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: ArcticDriver]
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Seventh


My concern with leaving it parked (often for a month+) is the crank settling into the bearings and causing excess wear on start up. The longer it sits, the more clackety it sounds when I fire it up, which I'm sure is valve train noise also, but it makes me cringe.



I can appreciate that concern.

I wonder if someone can suggest an oil that offers superior long-term adhesion.

If you are unable to set aside 30 minutes early Saturday/Sunday every 2-3 weeks then I think plugging in the block heater 2-3 hours before start-up might help the oil flow more quickly immediately after start-up.


We need magnatec diesel! But all seriousness aside, I never thought to use the block heater after long periods of sitting. That's a good idea.

Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: Seventh


The problem with that is, in order to get any significant miles on it, I'd have to get on the freeway, which is very close to me, but is ridiculous traffic before and after my work hours, and even on surface streets in the area.



One other consideration would be to turn off the O/D when you do drive since it will result in higher RPMs and reaching operating temp in fewer miles.



I've actually done that, and I do drive it like that around town in traffic, lots of stoplights, etc. It seems like it does help it warm up just a tad.

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#4531479 - 10/01/17 06:59 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: Seventh]
philipp10 Offline


Registered: 05/09/14
Posts: 1171
Loc: Minnesota
wow....talk about a bunch of worry warts......

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#4531540 - 10/01/17 08:04 PM Re: Diesel truck; short tripping vs leaving it parked [Re: philipp10]
Seventh Offline


Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 234
Loc: NorCal
Originally Posted By: Boczech


Good looking rig you have there. I would take it out on a trip and run it if you plan on keeping it. Napa area one weekend then the Sierra's , etc.


Thanks. I try to get it out whenever possible. I sometimes think of selling it, but I know I'll never find another one like it.

Originally Posted By: philipp10
wow....talk about a bunch of worry warts......


I never said I was losing sleep over it. grin The question was; which is worse?

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