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#4530405 - 09/30/17 04:08 PM Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel
doolah02 Offline


Registered: 04/27/14
Posts: 151
Loc: FL USA
I'm thinking of switching to ethanol-free gas for all my OPE.
Is it really worth switching to this fuel?

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#4530413 - 09/30/17 04:15 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
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I guess it would depend on what E0 costs per gallon in your area.Ethanol free 90-octane in my area is $2.80 and 91-octane with Ethanol is $3.15.

My personal opinion is that its worth it to me to run it in my motorcycles and OPE even if it were 20% more expensive but I respect your criteria might be different. Do you store your OPE for extended periods?

EDIT:

I see you are in FL and if you are near the coast then "Rec" gas is typically a decent price.


Edited by ArcticDriver (09/30/17 04:18 PM)
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#4530414 - 09/30/17 04:18 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
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You're going to get a million opinions on that question, and I'll guess most will say it is worth going out of your way to use E0. However, in my experience it makes no difference at all. We live in an EPA non-attainment area and the only fuel we've had for years and years has been E10. My 25 year old Toro lawn mower, my 17 year old snow thrower and lawn tractor, my 15 year old string trimmer and my 10 year old chain saw all run on E10 and have for as long as I've owned them. I do not use an additive nor a fuel stabilizer, nor do I always run the fuel out at the end of the season. All are still running fine and I've not had to replace anything except a carb bowl gasket on my snow thrower. So from my perspective I honestly don't see what the problem is nor have I had anything out of the ordinary fail on my equipment.

I'd have to drive nearly 20 miles to get E0 and I really don't see what the advantage would be.
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#4530416 - 09/30/17 04:20 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
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If you use the stuff weekly or so then e10 is fine. If it sits all season then e0 is what you want. I have nothing good to say about e10 in my stuff. I hate it.
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#4530417 - 09/30/17 04:21 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
danez_yoda Offline


Registered: 07/18/09
Posts: 465
Loc: texas
I use e-10 for my boat and all ope. I add marine stabil and seafoam in the maintenance dose and have had zero problems using fuel that is up to 1year old. I store it in my boat and fill my ope tanks from the fuel line in my boat. The boat has 25 gallons and i dont run it as much as i used to so it tends to stay in there a while.

When you figure the cost of stabil and seafoam it is pretty high per gallon but it is readily avaialble.

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#4530418 - 09/30/17 04:22 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: kschachn]
ArcticDriver Offline


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Originally Posted By: kschachn
You're going to get a million opinions on that question, and I'll guess most will say it is worth going out of your way to use E0. However, in my experience it makes no difference at all. We live in an EPA non-attainment area and the only fuel we've had for years and years has been E10. My 25 year old Toro lawn mower, my 17 year old snow thrower and lawn tractor, my 15 year old string trimmer and my 10 year old chain saw all run on E10 and have for as long as I've owned them. I do not use an additive nor a fuel stabilizer, nor do I always run the fuel out at the end of the season. All are still running fine and I've not had to replace anything except a carb bowl gasket on my snow thrower. So from my perspective I honestly don't see what the problem is nor have I had anything out of the ordinary fail on my equipment.

I'd have to drive nearly 20 miles to get E0 and I really don't see what the advantage would be.


That IS interesting.

I would not have thought such abherrant behaviors would exist on BITOG. grin
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#4530419 - 09/30/17 04:24 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: danez_yoda]
ArcticDriver Offline


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Originally Posted By: danez_yoda
I use e-10 for my boat and all ope. I add marine stabil and seafoam in the maintenance dose and have had zero problems using fuel that is up to 1year old. I store it in my boat and fill my ope tanks from the fuel line in my boat. The boat has 25 gallons and i dont run it as much as i used to so it tends to stay in there a while.

When you figure the cost of stabil and seafoam it is pretty high per gallon but it is readily avaialble.


Some people who make their living on boats might argue that a marine environment is not the place to use E10.
Do you trailer or is it dockside?
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#4530431 - 09/30/17 04:37 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
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Registered: 04/27/14
Posts: 151
Loc: FL USA

I don't store my equipment very long, usually once a month generator exercise.

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#4530433 - 09/30/17 04:42 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 460
Loc: West Ma.
I can't find ethonal free gas in my area... It's aLmost like Big Foot here, people say they've seen it but no evidence...
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#4530438 - 09/30/17 04:47 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
Eddie Offline


Registered: 12/07/03
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Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
There is more energy in ethanol free fuel. Calculations show about a 5.3% reduction in energy or mileage with 10% ethanol. Ed
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#4530474 - 09/30/17 05:47 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
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Registered: 06/26/11
Posts: 569
Loc: Florida
I run ethanol free in my push mowers and 2-stroke equipment. From past experience, I'm lucky to get 2 years out of the plastic 'carburetor' on a push mower using E-10. My ride-on mowers seem to tolerate E-10 pretty well.

Keep in mind this is humid Florida.

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#4530491 - 09/30/17 06:02 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: Eddie]
Duffyjr Offline


Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 508
Loc: Nebraska
Every OPE mech I've ever talked to has said not to use ethanol so I never have but I feel lucky I can get E0 at a reasonable price, most can't. If your buying and using up fresh gas every 30 days you should be fine but I wouldn't trust it any longer than that without adding marine stable or some additive designed to treat E10.
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#4530497 - 09/30/17 06:08 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
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You will get better gas mileage. My question is whether or not you can find a Top Tier non-ethanol gasoline.
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#4530536 - 09/30/17 06:47 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: Gebo]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Gebo
You will get better gas mileage. My question is whether or not you can find a Top Tier non-ethanol gasoline.


I suppose it would depnd on where you live.

For me personally, I will place priority on E0 over Top Tier...but its a personal choice:

You have probably already seen this site. It has a map feaure:
https://www.pure-gas.org
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#4530558 - 09/30/17 07:23 PM Re: Benefits of Ethanol-Free Fuel [Re: doolah02]
riklyn Offline


Registered: 10/17/16
Posts: 50
Loc: Heart of Dixie
I switched to ethanol free after replacing the carbs on my Echo trimmer and Husqi blower. Never had a problem with mower but I'm in the camp that it's worth it, at least for me.
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