Liqui Moly MOS2 experience so far

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Good morning BITOG folks.

I must say that the 2.4 2AZ-FE engine in my 09' Camry is very smooth running with the Liqui Moly MOS2. I'll keep using it also
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Anyone else have good experience or bad with it?
 
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.



It is a bit strange that a company with 'Moly' in it's name sells oils with little to no moly in them.

I have used their moly additive in the past but I'm really not sure if there was any benefit...(I'm not sure there wasn't any benefit either)...
 
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.


Well, this says "contains mineral oil AND molybendum disulfide
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
It bothers me most every oil Liqui Moly sells contains NO moly in it.


Same here. It's weird that only one of their oils contains moly (and it's advertised on the label that it contains their M0S2) and the rest have zero moly. I tried a can in the Mustang one time and noticed absolutely nothing,expect for turning the oil dark gray.
 
A lot of engineering studies and also many oil formulators use a lot of moly. It does work.
Idemitsu, Redline, Pennzoil (Ultra 0w40), Schaeffers, Mobil1 Racing Oil, and some I've missed, all use tons of moly.
Usually you see around 80 ppm (low to medium) amounts to pass the Sequence VID part of GF-5, the fuel economy increase (FEI) tests.
Moly doesn't appear to interfere with ZDDP and other additives in oil, so its considered safe to add.

Standing on the outside of the engine, you'll probably never notice a difference. Not observable. Doesn't mean its not making an improvement though.
 
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
A lot of engineering studies and also many oil formulators use a lot of moly. It does work.
Idemitsu, Redline, Pennzoil (Ultra 0w40), Schaeffers, Mobil1 Racing Oil, and some I've missed, all use tons of moly.
Usually you see around 80 ppm (low to medium) amounts to pass the Sequence VID part of GF-5, the fuel economy increase (FEI) tests.
Moly doesn't appear to interfere with ZDDP and other additives in oil, so its considered safe to add.


Thanks for the info. Next fill will be Chevron Supreme 10w30 SN, and some EMBLEM 10w30 HDEO that's from 91' with half can of MOS2


The EMBLEM oil was made in Warren PA
 
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Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!
 
I'm coming up on an oil change soon. Car was down about a quarter of a quart after 4800 miles. Poured in 8 ounces of MMO and car seems much smoother after adding it. No moly in it but something to consider using. I also added some to the fuel at the recommended dosage and didn't notice any benefits. Not expensive and avail at WM.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.
 
Originally Posted By: Danh
What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


Pennzoil conventional as of 2016 in 5w20 has 187 ppm of moly in it.
 
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/quakerstate.htm
 
So you mean this forum isn't "Bob is the Synthetic Oil Guy"? Heresy.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/quakerstate.htm




Do the hm oil's have the same moly?
 
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil has a ton of moly. I bet that's why is legendary at being the most quiet oil,and everyone I know who uses it their engines run forever!


What leads you to think Pennzoil has a ton of moly? UOAS here show Ultra and Platinum have 50-60ppm, which is typical of many oils, Mobil1 included. If you really want molybdenum, Mazda 0w-20 has around 10x that amount.


269ppm of moly in PYB
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Pennzoil.htm

249pm of moly in Quaker State UD,another "quiet oil"
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/quakerstate.htm




Do the hm oil's have the same moly?


Yep
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/PZHM.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/QSDEFY.htm
 
Just beware of the dates on those reports, some of them being from 2011 and 2014. Which is why I like to see reports on pqia from 2017 and 2016 to get a better idea of what's in there.
 
Just added a can to my S-series DOHC. This is an engine that appreciates molybdenum disulfide
 
Recent tests (like the last year +) show the moly level in PYB significantly less. The high dollar synthetics are likely using tri-nuclear moly, 80ppm of that is as effective as much higher levels of the type likely found PYB and QSUD.

I have used MoS2 a good bit in my Jeep, it absolutely makes it quieter and I do get a small mpg boost out of it as well. But the Jeep is an old tractor engine for the most part. I still have one bottle but I mostly quit using it, it became expensive enough as an additive it didn't really make sense to me to keep buying conventional and doctoring it when I was well into top tier full syn pricing at that point.

I often wondered how it would do in an oil with none otherwise, like Rotella.
 
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