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PZ Ultra Platinum /1.5 Ecoboost Fusion - 30k mile #4529512
09/29/17 03:46 PM
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Oil: Pennzoil Ultra Platnium 5W20
Car: 16í Fusion 1.5 Ecoboost
Change Interval: 5,432 miles
Change History: Factory Fill changed at 1,500 miles with Motorcraft - Switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum at 5,000 miles.
Filter: Motorcraft
Type of Driving: Mountainous/Highway/Hard Accelerations Daily
Miles on Car: 30,432

JUSTIN: You're not asking too much of this Ford. In fact, this engine is wearing quite nicely. Universal
averages show typical wear for the 1.5L EcoBoost after ~5,700 miles of oil use. Your metals are low by
comparison, and that shows a healthy engine under the hood. This fill of Ultra Platinum certainly got the job
done. The viscosity is appropriate for the grade, and the flashpoint reading is high enough to rule out any
significant fuel dilution. Oil filtration looks good too (low insolubles). The TBN shows plenty of active additive
left, so let's try ~7,505 miles next time.


Last edited by justinkk2005; 09/29/17 03:56 PM.
Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: justinkk2005] #4529529
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Nice report. As noted by BlSt, Fuel%, flashpoint and tbn look good. Think I might try ~6500 miles next rather than 7500 suggested. PUP with MC filter worked well here.

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: Sayjac] #4529531
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Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Nice report. As noted by BlSt, Fuel%, flashpoint and tbn look good. Think I might try ~6500 miles next rather than 7500 suggested. PUP with MC filter worked well here.


Iím hoping PUP keeps me from having carbon deposits on the intake valves. Looks to be doing the job.

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: justinkk2005] #4529560
09/29/17 04:31 PM
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Now how does any oil keep carbon deposits from getting on intake valves? I didn't think any oil should be coming in contact with the inlet side of the valve?


2011 RX350 53k miles
2015 Fiesta SFE eco-boost 25k miles
Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: Burt] #4529575
09/29/17 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: Burt
Now how does any oil keep carbon deposits from getting on intake valves? I didn't think any oil should be coming in contact with the inlet side of the valve?


By resisting evaporation with a low Noack.


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD 2.4L: MSS 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: justinkk2005] #4529684
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justinKK2005, the iOLM (intelligent oil life monitor) algorithm on your car is very good at predicting oil life. You are using an excellent oil, better than what Ford assumed in their iOLM, so you would be fine just following the iOLM and resetting it properly when you change.
Beware of Motorcraft oil filters made by Purolator. They are part of the infamous Purolator tearing issue. I'd use a Fram Ultra if I were you.
That engine is in perfect condition, and its wearing fine.

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: justinkk2005] #4529769
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Those are great numbers, especially if youíre driving the engine hard. What was the OLM at when you changed the oil?


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: Burt] #4530028
09/30/17 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Burt
Now how does any oil keep carbon deposits from getting on intake valves? I didn't think any oil should be coming in contact with the inlet side of the valve?


Youíve never seen inside of the charge pipe of an ecoboost. Full of oil due to the PCV system. Low NOACK of this oil can prevent the oil from coking on the valves.

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: oil_film_movies] #4530031
09/30/17 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: Onug
Those are great numbers, especially if youíre driving the engine hard. What was the OLM at when you changed the oil?

51%. This car has a rough life in the terrain I live in (Appalachian Mountains). It is very weak so itís treated rough passing cars going up hill.

Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
justinKK2005, the iOLM (intelligent oil life monitor) algorithm on your car is very good at predicting oil life. You are using an excellent oil, better than what Ford assumed in their iOLM, so you would be fine just following the iOLM and resetting it properly when you change.
Beware of Motorcraft oil filters made by Purolator. They are part of the infamous Purolator tearing issue. I'd use a Fram Ultra if I were you.
That engine is in perfect condition, and its wearing fine.


The motorcraft filter I use is from Walmart. Iíve always used high end oil filters until I bought this. I expected Ford to raise a stink if I ever had an engine issue. Seems to be working well though.

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: justinkk2005] #4530120
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Originally Posted By: justinkk2005

The motorcraft filter I use is from Walmart. Iíve always used high end oil filters until I bought this. I expected Ford to raise a stink if I ever had an engine issue. Seems to be working well though.
From Walmart, made by Purolator, which is potentially a problem. They have never addressed their tearing problems. Motorcrafts are a part of it. Just a risk. Why use anything Purolator-made?
I agree there will probably be no engine issues using the 'Puro-Trash' Tearolators, as they are called.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...p=sharing#gid=0

Re: 2016 Ford Fusion - 1.5 Ecoboost - 30,500 Miles [Re: oil_film_movies] #4530132
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
justinKK2005, the iOLM (intelligent oil life monitor) algorithm on your car is very good at predicting oil life. You are using an excellent oil, better than what Ford assumed in their iOLM, so you would be fine just following the iOLM and resetting it properly when you change.
Beware of Motorcraft oil filters made by Purolator. They are part of the infamous Purolator tearing issue. I'd use a Fram Ultra if I were you.
That engine is in perfect condition, and its wearing fine.



I agree.

I would go 7500 miles and do another UOA....I'd be very surprised if SOPUS best product (PUP) couldn't handle it.

I also agree on using a different oil filter....I really don't trust anything Purolator makes because of the 'tearing issue' and their refusal to do anything about it....


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: PZ Ultra Platinum /1.5 Ecoboost Fusion - 30k mile [Re: justinkk2005] #4530160
09/30/17 11:02 AM
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Another nice Ford EcoBoost UOA. It seems that maybe Ford has done some "homework" on using Turbo DI engines without allowing lots of fuel to dilute the oil. Which seems to happen with some other makes using Turbo DI engines. Interesting that your 1.5 EcoBoost spec's 5W-20 and my 2017 2.3 EcoBoost spec's 5W-30. Yours did well on 5W-20 for the almost 5,500 mile OCI.

Whimsey

Re: PZ Ultra Platinum /1.5 Ecoboost Fusion - 30k mile [Re: Whimsey] #4530618
09/30/17 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: justinkk2005

The motorcraft filter I use is from Walmart. Iíve always used high end oil filters until I bought this. I expected Ford to raise a stink if I ever had an engine issue. Seems to be working well though.
From Walmart, made by Purolator, which is potentially a problem. They have never addressed their tearing problems. Motorcrafts are a part of it. Just a risk. Why use anything Purolator-made?
I agree there will probably be no engine issues using the 'Puro-Trash' Tearolators, as they are called.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...p=sharing#gid=0


Honestly I didnít really know about this. I had no way of knowing until now so thank you. What would you recommend? I remember Mobil 1 filters used to be well respected.
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
Another nice Ford EcoBoost UOA. It seems that maybe Ford has done some "homework" on using Turbo DI engines without allowing lots of fuel to dilute the oil. Which seems to happen with some other makes using Turbo DI engines. Interesting that your 1.5 EcoBoost spec's 5W-20 and my 2017 2.3 EcoBoost spec's 5W-30. Yours did well on 5W-20 for the almost 5,500 mile OCI.

Whimsey


I didnít expect this good of an analysis for as rough as I am on this car!

Re: PZ Ultra Platinum /1.5 Ecoboost Fusion - 30k mile [Re: justinkk2005] #4530667
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Nice report, 5400 miles on PP 5W20, with only 7 ppm iron wear and 3.9 is lots of TBN left. Viscosity still looks fine with KV100 of ~ 8.4 cSt.

The zinc at 740 ppm looks standard, the Ca at ~ 2400 ppm looks good, a touch of moly 55 ppm and a touch of Boron 48 ppm complete a nice looking oil.

If I don't need the extra cold start (of a 0W) and I know I'm getting a quality synthetic base (like PP) then the 5W20 is my pick for the 20 grade oils. It has lower volatility and more shear stability than an equivalent made 0W20.

All up I'm impressed with both the engine and the oil, keep doing the same, but maybe extend the OCI a bit, lots of life left in that oil. PP is good stuff.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: PZ Ultra Platinum /1.5 Ecoboost Fusion - 30k mile [Re: justinkk2005] #4530677
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Originally Posted By: justinkk2005
Honestly I didnít really know about this. I had no way of knowing until now so thank you. What would you recommend? I remember Mobil 1 filters used to be well respected.
Sad, but its been going on for the last few years. Purolator is not trusted much. Mobil 1 filters are very good; Fram Ultra's from Walmart are better. This based on ISO 4548-12 and the Ultra's construction. Could order MicroGreen oil filters from Amazon.com too, they are very good as well. Royal Purple oil filters are very good. Ultra hard to beat and easy-cheap to get.

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