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#4529038 - 09/29/17 05:54 AM Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers...
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 414
Loc: New York
Given the shaky reputation Cardone has, I was a little hesitant but decided to give it a go.

Got two Cardone reman calipers from their ultra line with the powder coat on it. Box is nice and fancy, when you open it up it has a card facing you that talks about how impressed you'll be with their ultra premium calipers.

First caliper had the piston boot installed incorrectly, not seated on the piston and actually twisted/pinched against the body of the caliper with a rusty looking piston as well. The boots for the guide pins were seated into the bracket but not the pins. Okay. The caliper guide pins were ugly looking too, clearly not new.

Second caliper looked fine from the piston boot and guide pin boot side, the plastic cap on the inlet port that they brag about on their description (they claim it protects the threads) was missing and instead the banjo bolt was threaded in there. Kind of weird since the first one had the plastic cap. Piston looks scratched to [censored] from whatever blasting they did to it but at least there's no rust this time. C-clip for the piston boot was slightly out so I had to push it back in. Pulled the bracket and noticed the guide pins were brand new unlike the first, noticed they put two of the same guide pin when they were supposed to have two different guide pins. The one with the bushing on it was missing.

Had RockAuto cut me a refund for the amount it would cost to replace the guide pins and had them replace the other one. I hope the replacement is not as bad. I have to admit this makes me wonder how the things I can't see like the other side of the piston and the square cut seal are. I find it kind of hard to believe their quality control could be this bad.

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#4529042 - 09/29/17 06:06 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29741
Loc: NY
Why am I not surprised? I think the way to go with reman parts is to buy them local so you can actually look them over. Even that is no guarantee with the lousy quality these days but its a start. It might cost more but could end up being a time saver if you need the vehicle "yesterday."
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#4529056 - 09/29/17 06:35 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 2506
Loc: Central Maryland
I love Rock Auto, but demarpaint is right, for some refurb items it's best to buy local and look them over first (and avoid Cardone).
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#4529089 - 09/29/17 07:19 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: HangFire]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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Originally Posted By: HangFire
I love Rock Auto, but demarpaint is right, for some refurb items it's best to buy local and look them over first (and avoid Cardone).
i think cardone is the only game in town for calipers. All i have ever seen anyway
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#4529122 - 09/29/17 08:05 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: Chris142]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 2506
Loc: Central Maryland
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: HangFire
I love Rock Auto, but demarpaint is right, for some refurb items it's best to buy local and look them over first (and avoid Cardone).
i think cardone is the only game in town for calipers. All i have ever seen anyway

For rebuilt. There's always dealer options, and online dealers. Sometimes, when your life is on the line (brakes), and there are no good rebuild options, just buy new OEM.

Maybe it's time for some Public Shaming: https://www.facebook.com/pages/A1-Cardone/330162340357112

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#4529154 - 09/29/17 08:30 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
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Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10017
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
Yeah, I too have had only marginal success with reman Cardone Brake Calipers. Often the bleeder screw is stripped or the anti rattle spring(mazda/ford) were broken off inside the caliper hole(s) therefore, not being able to put the spring into the hole and had to drill out the hole(which Cardone reman facility should have inspected & performed). This one I just bought last week(mazda3) was OK.
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#4529181 - 09/29/17 08:57 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1862
Loc: Chicago, IL
Hm, well, that makes me a little nervous about my caliper that I replaced a year and a half ago. I got the Ultra Cardones as well, hoping to get the better end of the Cardone remans.

What makes me nervous is that since I'm just an amateur, I may not have noticed any of the issues like you did. I'd imagine a lot of home garage guys may not either. I did check and silicone grease the slide pins since that's a known issue. At least, it's been working great for about 18 months and 20,000 miles.

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#4529204 - 09/29/17 09:18 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
andyd Offline


Registered: 09/25/04
Posts: 7136
Loc: Marshfield , MA
I musta hit the parts lottery when I bought stuff for the Rat. I bought a set of re-manned calipers from Auto Zone. The calipers cost me 16$ each and my calipers as cores. I bought a cheap set of pads and have had no further drama. All the brake and clutch parts came from Parts Geek. Parts selection was mostly price driven. The heavy stuff was bought at the local AZ to avoid shipping. Only splurge was for a LUK rep set. I bought a new starter for 48$ from Amazon. It was almost too pretty to hide on the Rat. Works as good as it looks. grin2
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#4529227 - 09/29/17 09:51 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
NHGUY Offline


Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 5041
Loc: USA
BBB/King Kaliper does calipers too.As do Raybestos,Centric,Dorman new and others....

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#4529310 - 09/29/17 11:05 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
ragtoplvr Offline


Registered: 01/14/15
Posts: 528
Loc: missouri
LOTS of competition in the reman caliper business. With the intense competition on price, and part number proliferation, makes it very hard to the reman to make a profit. Quality can suffer, some care more than others.

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#4529426 - 09/29/17 01:32 PM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3005
Loc: Occupied Virginia
I bought Raybestos remans for my wife's Corolla assuming they would be a slightly higher quality but I had nothing but trouble with them. The Cardone-reman'd Wearever calipers from Advance fixed those problems. Take that however you will...

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#4529465 - 09/29/17 02:37 PM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 414
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
I bought Raybestos remans for my wife's Corolla assuming they would be a slightly higher quality but I had nothing but trouble with them. The Cardone-reman'd Wearever calipers from Advance fixed those problems. Take that however you will...
What kind of problems?

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#4529742 - 09/29/17 07:33 PM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: HangFire]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6141
Loc: USA
With reman items that have a core charge, I prefer to buy local in-store* because of return shipping to Rock Auto.

*For the purpose of this post and buying reman parts, in-store also includes their respective online sites (eg autozone.com) since they let you buy online and return in-store

Napa Eclipse is the same as Cardone Ultra, except the coating is black instead of silver.

Originally Posted By: HangFire
There's always dealer options, and online dealers. Sometimes, when your life is on the line (brakes), and there are no good rebuild options, just buy new OEM.

Maybe it's time for some Public Shaming: https://www.facebook.com/pages/A1-Cardone/330162340357112


even the dealer "OEM" rebuilds are done by Cardone

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#4530003 - 09/30/17 07:10 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: NoNameJoe]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10002
Loc: Indiana
So are NAPA calipers even Cardones?
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#4530029 - 09/30/17 08:22 AM Re: Bit the bullet on Cardone reman calipers... [Re: slacktide_bitog]
HangFire Offline


Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 2506
Loc: Central Maryland
Originally Posted By: HangFire
There's always dealer options, and online dealers. Sometimes, when your life is on the line (brakes), and there are no good rebuild options, just buy new OEM.

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
even the dealer "OEM" rebuilds are done by Cardone

Sometimes, such as GM. Some marques do not sell refurb calipers at all. Anyway, that is why I said "just buy new OEM."
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