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Very over tightened drain plug #4528507
09/28/17 02:29 PM
09/28/17 02:29 PM
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Albany, NY
ford46guy Offline OP
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tl;dr
This guy is a tech..
Another guy brought his van to {insert quick change place} and they torqued the bolt up enough to make the bung spin in the pan. The oil pan had to come off(there was a video before this).



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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528513
09/28/17 02:35 PM
09/28/17 02:35 PM
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Good n' tight!


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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528522
09/28/17 02:47 PM
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Western Ma.
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That sucks...Maybe some stooges put thread crazy locker on it ...

Last edited by rollinpete; 09/28/17 02:49 PM.

Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive238K miles
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Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528530
09/28/17 03:02 PM
09/28/17 03:02 PM
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I don't think that's how torque wrenches work...

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528533
09/28/17 03:05 PM
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I was particularly impressed with the "sandle in the pan" bracing method. I must have been asleep when they taught that technique in all the mechanics courses I have taken over the years.

Other than that, just one more reason not to take your car to a quick oil change "shop."

Last edited by SilverSnake; 09/28/17 03:06 PM.

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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: SilverSnake] #4528534
09/28/17 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: SilverSnake
I was particularly impressed with the "sandle in the pan" bracing method. I must have been asleep when they taught that technique in all the mechanics courses I have taken over the years

crackmeup


Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive238K miles
PPHM 5w30 and Fram Ultra x 2

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528538
09/28/17 03:15 PM
09/28/17 03:15 PM
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I definitely can empathize with that.




The first oil change I did after I bought my Fusion was.. problematic. When I went to remove the drain plug, I found that it had apparently been hand-tightened by Superman. Using a standard socket wrench and socket, I could not budge it, but I did find that the bolt head was noticeably deformed - So much so that the socket would not even go on straight.

My only solution was to grab an impact socket in the correct size, and carefully hammer it on the drain plug, and then use my breaker bar to carefully work it off. Luckily, it came off without causing damage to the oil pan.


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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528547
09/28/17 03:24 PM
09/28/17 03:24 PM
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Why didn't the guy flip the pan upside down and let it brace against the wrench? Could've saved us a lot of foot watching. Although I found the choice of footwear quite matching the job at hand lol.


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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: SirTanon] #4528585
09/28/17 04:18 PM
09/28/17 04:18 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
I definitely can empathize with that.




The first oil change I did after I bought my Fusion was.. problematic. When I went to remove the drain plug, I found that it had apparently been hand-tightened by Superman. Using a standard socket wrench and socket, I could not budge it, but I did find that the bolt head was noticeably deformed - So much so that the socket would not even go on straight.

My only solution was to grab an impact socket in the correct size, and carefully hammer it on the drain plug, and then use my breaker bar to carefully work it off. Luckily, it came off without causing damage to the oil pan.


Yep they did that to my Duramax when I was on my trip to the Gulf 4 years ago. I wanted to change the Oil when I got back with all the heavy towing had one H of a time getting it off. Had to replace the plug it was toast! I guess that's why those people make minimum wage!


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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528594
09/28/17 04:25 PM
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I still can't wrap my head on how you can overtighten an oil drain plug or oil filter. I've done my own oil changes for ages and it does not take a lot of torque or require power or air tools to fasten a bolt that gets frequently removed.

Seriously why do you need air tools to do oil changes? What are the iffy lube monkeys doing with air tools that I can hear in their shop? Hopefully not on drain bolts and they are using it to jerk off themselves instead.

Last edited by Kibitoshin; 09/28/17 04:26 PM.

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Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528643
09/28/17 05:41 PM
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Just to many Idiots out there...

This should read on the headlines

Beware people ... shops armed with air tools... with people who don't know how to use them...



No need for air tools for oil changes...


Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive238K miles
PPHM 5w30 and Fram Ultra x 2

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528664
09/28/17 05:56 PM
09/28/17 05:56 PM
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Boston, MA
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Torque wrenches are not generally used as breaker bars, BYMMV.

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528741
09/28/17 07:25 PM
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While in the hospital away from our home my wife had the 4Runner oil changed. When I changed the oil the next time I had to pound a 3' long screwdriver through the filter and pull really hard with both hands to get it off. It finally let go with the feeling of something snapping. The oil pan drain plug, just a 14mm bolt required a breaker bar to get loose. They must have had the Incredible Hulk in his green state doing oil changes that day.

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528748
09/28/17 07:27 PM
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If you want it done correctly.... Do it yourself.

Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy] #4528763
09/28/17 07:37 PM
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The gentleman in the video is a materials science PhD and a professional automotive diagnostician... but of course the superior minds of BITOG are going to make fun of him for wearing sandals, not putting the oil pan the way they'd like, et cetera.

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