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#4528507 - 09/28/17 02:29 PM Very over tightened drain plug
ford46guy Offline


Registered: 06/01/13
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Loc: Albany, NY
tl;dr
This guy is a tech..
Another guy brought his van to {insert quick change place} and they torqued the bolt up enough to make the bung spin in the pan. The oil pan had to come off(there was a video before this).

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#4528513 - 09/28/17 02:35 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
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Good n' tight!
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#4528522 - 09/28/17 02:47 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 453
Loc: West Ma.
That sucks...Maybe some stooges put thread crazy locker on it ...


Edited by rollinpete (09/28/17 02:49 PM)
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#4528530 - 09/28/17 03:02 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
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I don't think that's how torque wrenches work...

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#4528533 - 09/28/17 03:05 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
SilverSnake Offline


Registered: 05/29/13
Posts: 591
Loc: Florida
I was particularly impressed with the "sandle in the pan" bracing method. I must have been asleep when they taught that technique in all the mechanics courses I have taken over the years.

Other than that, just one more reason not to take your car to a quick oil change "shop."


Edited by SilverSnake (09/28/17 03:06 PM)
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#4528534 - 09/28/17 03:13 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: SilverSnake]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
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Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: SilverSnake
I was particularly impressed with the "sandle in the pan" bracing method. I must have been asleep when they taught that technique in all the mechanics courses I have taken over the years

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#4528538 - 09/28/17 03:15 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
SirTanon Offline


Registered: 06/23/14
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Loc: Phoenix, Arizona - USA
I definitely can empathize with that.




The first oil change I did after I bought my Fusion was.. problematic. When I went to remove the drain plug, I found that it had apparently been hand-tightened by Superman. Using a standard socket wrench and socket, I could not budge it, but I did find that the bolt head was noticeably deformed - So much so that the socket would not even go on straight.

My only solution was to grab an impact socket in the correct size, and carefully hammer it on the drain plug, and then use my breaker bar to carefully work it off. Luckily, it came off without causing damage to the oil pan.
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#4528547 - 09/28/17 03:24 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
KrisZ Offline


Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Toronto, Canada
Why didn't the guy flip the pan upside down and let it brace against the wrench? Could've saved us a lot of foot watching. Although I found the choice of footwear quite matching the job at hand lol.
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#4528585 - 09/28/17 04:18 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: SirTanon]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2745
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: SirTanon
I definitely can empathize with that.




The first oil change I did after I bought my Fusion was.. problematic. When I went to remove the drain plug, I found that it had apparently been hand-tightened by Superman. Using a standard socket wrench and socket, I could not budge it, but I did find that the bolt head was noticeably deformed - So much so that the socket would not even go on straight.

My only solution was to grab an impact socket in the correct size, and carefully hammer it on the drain plug, and then use my breaker bar to carefully work it off. Luckily, it came off without causing damage to the oil pan.


Yep they did that to my Duramax when I was on my trip to the Gulf 4 years ago. I wanted to change the Oil when I got back with all the heavy towing had one H of a time getting it off. Had to replace the plug it was toast! I guess that's why those people make minimum wage!
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#4528594 - 09/28/17 04:25 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
Kibitoshin Offline


Registered: 04/19/16
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I still can't wrap my head on how you can overtighten an oil drain plug or oil filter. I've done my own oil changes for ages and it does not take a lot of torque or require power or air tools to fasten a bolt that gets frequently removed.

Seriously why do you need air tools to do oil changes? What are the iffy lube monkeys doing with air tools that I can hear in their shop? Hopefully not on drain bolts and they are using it to jerk off themselves instead.


Edited by Kibitoshin (09/28/17 04:26 PM)
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#4528643 - 09/28/17 05:41 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 453
Loc: West Ma.
Just to many Idiots out there...

This should read on the headlines

Beware people ... shops armed with air tools... with people who don't know how to use them...



No need for air tools for oil changes...
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#4528664 - 09/28/17 05:56 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
HerrStig Offline


Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 9560
Loc: Boston, MA
Torque wrenches are not generally used as breaker bars, BYMMV.

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#4528741 - 09/28/17 07:25 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
While in the hospital away from our home my wife had the 4Runner oil changed. When I changed the oil the next time I had to pound a 3' long screwdriver through the filter and pull really hard with both hands to get it off. It finally let go with the feeling of something snapping. The oil pan drain plug, just a 14mm bolt required a breaker bar to get loose. They must have had the Incredible Hulk in his green state doing oil changes that day.

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#4528748 - 09/28/17 07:27 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21196
Loc: Orlando, FL
If you want it done correctly.... Do it yourself.

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#4528763 - 09/28/17 07:37 PM Re: Very over tightened drain plug [Re: ford46guy]
Ethan1 Offline


Registered: 12/29/14
Posts: 1632
Loc: 'murica
The gentleman in the video is a materials science PhD and a professional automotive diagnostician... but of course the superior minds of BITOG are going to make fun of him for wearing sandals, not putting the oil pan the way they'd like, et cetera.

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