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Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use #4527793
09/27/17 05:07 PM
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I have a work PC that was given to me when I first started employment. It was used by a few other people before me, which makes me wonder:

When I'm on break, I sometimes use the work PC to pay bills and enter secure passwords.

Is it possible for the employer (or even a previous employee) to install some kind of software that tracks keystrokes and the like? Is there any way to check?

Not really concerned, just curious.

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527796
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Originally Posted By: oilpsi2high
Is it possible for the employer (or even a previous employee) to install some kind of software that tracks keystrokes and the like? Is there any way to check?

Yes to the first question, and maybe but maybe not to the second one. Some programs can be installed in hidden folders only visible to the administrator account (and sometimes not even there).


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527800
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My advice would be to use your own personal computer to pay bills or surf the web.
While your employer may have verbally said it was okay to use, in a legal battle your computer use could be used against you.

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527801
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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527805
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What about connecting to a company VPN with a personal computer? Can they hack into your home machine without you knowing, even if you're disconnected?

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527810
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I've been thinking about this, too. My company issues laptops to most employees. Until recently, the help desk people would grant administrator access to just about anyone who demonstrated decent computer knowledge. But, with recent news of hacks, worms, and viruses the company decided to lock everything down. Some programs, like Chrome, can take multiple attempts to even start. I would not be at all surprised if intrusive monitoring were being practiced. Keystroke logging might be a stretch, but that could be just one more publicized data breach away.

I hope I can follow my own advice, but don't do anything on your employer's computer, or internet connection, that you would not feel 100% comfortable sharing with your employer.

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527812
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Only use your personal cellphone or computer(s) for your personal business.


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527815
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Never, ever enter anything personal on an employers computer.
Personal and work always stay separated. I won't even place a personal call on "their" phone.
My employer monitors web activity, e-mail, downloads, word docs. Folks have been investigated for using employer provided hard/software for job searches, NSFW stuff, and hack/crack warez.


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527819
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The company computer and data is their property so they have the right to monitor. Most companies will allow certain non business activity on your time - check their in house or MDM policy. As far as them monitoring your keystrokes, definitely not. That would expose them to privacy and intellectual property laws that could get them into serious hot water. Basically they know where you've been but not how you got there.


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527820
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Only use your company PC for company work. But no personal email or logging onto websites with your personal credentials.

Maybe checking the weather would be OK.


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527836
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Seems simple enough.

Today for example, I worked from home and used my personal PC to connect to the company VPN and remote into my desktop at the office. Could this be a cause for concern?

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527847
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Originally Posted By: oilpsi2high
Seems simple enough.

Today for example, I worked from home and used my personal PC to connect to the company VPN and remote into my desktop at the office. Could this be a cause for concern?


Yes, in that in any criminal or civil action involving your employer, your personal desktop could be seized.
Even using your personal phone to view emails or even your hours and pay would subject it to seizure.


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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527856
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They absolutely could use a keylogger and it's about the simplest way to monitor your usage.

I worked at a small 20 employee business and when the boss got paranoid about good people leaving she started paying $5/month for a 3rd party email service just so she could read our stuff. She could have done it for much cheaper via keylogger etc but didn't trust our in-house "IT" to set it up.

(In house IT had a high school education and thought "download" was two words.)

Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527863
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Just to point out 'one of the many problems' with using your work computer is the fact that many companies use a legitimate 'man in the middle' decryption scheme to intercept and decrypt HTTPS traffic going thru a proxy; So even if you log into your bank using and encrypted website, the traffic is IN FACT being decrypted at your company's web proxy for the purposes of inspecting and possibly logging the traffic and then reencrypted and sent to the bank; consequently your passwords and login accounts could show up in numerous log files.

Why do companies do this? No company wants an employee to have the ability to send encrypted traffic offsite without the ability to inspect it.

Don't 'think they might be' doing this, bank (no pun intended) on it.

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Re: Company-provided laptop - software that tracks use [Re: oilpsi2high] #4527914
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I do IT for an agency.

The employer owned laptops have a VPN program on them to get back to the internal network.

All the traffic goes through a web filter appliance. Every webpage you visit can be audited, but we are only concerned with stuff that generates an alert, such as porn.

All pc's have an antivirus client which reports back if there are any infections on the pc.

If you are remoting into a session from your home desktop computer like a VDI session, there is no cause for worry. You are controlling a work owned desktop and that has nothing to do with your desktop pc.

Think about it, if the company installed keyloggers, why would they do that? Also who the heck has time to read keylogger data all day.


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