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#4527770 - 09/27/17 05:40 PM SkyActiv drain & fill
LotI Offline


Registered: 01/01/13
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Changed the ATF in my Mazda6 today. Almost as easy as changing the engine oil. Just had a bigger access panel to remove.

I found a Service manual for the 2014 and they really havenít changed anything since. FZ fluid is easy to find at the stealer and mine charged $14.89/qt.

Mazda was really thoughtful and used the exact same fastener and washer as the engine oil drain. That meant my stash of 14mm washers was all I needed. I bought a 50-pack from Amazon for $8 a couple years ago since I used to have Hondaís and still have a Honda motorcycle that uses the same washer. Instructions

I checked the dipstick when the engine was off so I had a baseline and roughly measured the amount removed at 3+ quarts. Took 3.8qts to put the level right when the fluid temp was 50C on my ScanGuage. if you donít have Popeye forearms, you can get to it from the engine bay. Adjustment

MolaKuleís advice about changing FF before 10k was the reason for the change. Car has 8k on it.

A side funny story...I called another dealer to shop prices and was quoted $26/qt! They parts dork told me that if my fluid is low I should bring it in for warranty. I told him that I wanted to change the fluid and he basically yelled at me not to split the cases...even Mazda pre-fills the new trannyís sent to dealers! I mentioned that Mazda was kind enough to install both a drain plug and dipstick so Itís easy. Donít be that guy! Thereís such thing as the internet now and thereís a good chance your customer may know more than you.
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#4527783 - 09/27/17 05:59 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
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You did a D&F on the Skyactiv Drive at 8K? I am going to hold my tongue regarding what a waste that was.

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#4527787 - 09/27/17 06:03 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: DBMaster]
LotI Offline


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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
You did a D&F on the Skyactiv Drive at 8K? I am going to hold my tongue regarding what a waste that was.

By saying that youíre not holding your tongue. This is a no judgment zone, D-BagMaster

Ever read Molaís posts?
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#4527792 - 09/27/17 06:06 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
DBMaster Offline


Registered: 09/18/12
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Yes, you are as correct as you are classy.

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#4527794 - 09/27/17 06:10 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
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DB stands for D*&k Brain, btw.

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#4527795 - 09/27/17 06:13 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: DBMaster]
LotI Offline


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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
DB stands for D*&k Brain, btw.

Lol, I made an assumption! Stay classy, my friend. I know the change wasnít ďnecessaryĒ, but Iíve spent more than that on one steak...not the whole dinner mind you.

I donít need to explain how long the steak lasted...I want the car to be around.
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#4527799 - 09/27/17 06:17 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7597
Loc: New York
I read Critic's and DBMaster's threads on changing the ATF on a Skyactive Mazda and both concurred that they would have went longer after seeing how clean the drained ATF was....I think DB was being kind by informing you of this and you were a bit harsh in response but that's just my opinion....oh well.....
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#4527802 - 09/27/17 06:19 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
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Registered: 09/18/12
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I have a 2012 Mazda3 with SA Drive. I felt guilty about not doing a D&F (and, believe me, I have been guilty of over-maintaining for most of my life) so I did it at 60K. The fluid that came out was extremely clean and smelled the same as the new stuff put back in. I ordered it online from a Mazda dealer for right around $15/quart including shipping. I have to let go of the old paradigm and accept the fact that "lifetime" fluid may indeed exist. Transmission and fluid technology changed a lot since my last car - a 1989 Honda Accord.

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#4527818 - 09/27/17 06:43 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
DBMaster Offline


Registered: 09/18/12
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I'm not offended. If I post something like I did I'm challenging someone else's opinion or belief. It's OK if the initial response is irritability. If you never challenge anyone opinions and beliefs remain stagnant. And, it's perfectly OK if they don't agree with me. We're all way too sensitive these days - as individuals and as a society.

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#4527838 - 09/27/17 07:03 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
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$14.89 is list for a quart of FZ.
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#4527850 - 09/27/17 07:10 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: bdcardinal]
tig1 Offline


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Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
$14.89 is list for a quart of FZ.


Is the Mazda spec and Mercon LV the same or no?
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#4527855 - 09/27/17 07:19 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: tig1]
DBMaster Offline


Registered: 09/18/12
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
$14.89 is list for a quart of FZ.


Is the Mazda spec and Mercon LV the same or no?


FZ has its own proprietary spec. It claims to be "ultra low viscosity." when I did the D&F I can confirm that it is about as viscous as 0W-20 oil.

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#4527866 - 09/27/17 07:28 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6141
Loc: USA
Maxlife is ok to use in a transmission using FZ and it costs much less smile

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#4527895 - 09/27/17 07:58 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
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Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 2313
Loc: wi
2012 3 with SA 100k have not touched trany yet shifts like new who knows maybe get the itch at 125k or not. Engine and filter are done with 5k intervals with M1 engine is pristine love the vehicle and sky technology.

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#4527918 - 09/27/17 08:27 PM Re: SkyActiv drain & fill [Re: LotI]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
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I dumbed the factory transmission fill on my 2014 Mazda 3 with manual transmission at about 10k as well. Fluid came out sparkling with metallic bits. Gear Changes got ALOT smoother with new fluid. It was definitely worth the flush to me.
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