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Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? #4527042
09/26/17 06:33 PM
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So on my new 17 Jetta with the 1.4T, im getting ready for the first oil change. Fram specs 3614 for this car, which has a PSI bypass of 12PSI. Mann (which is the OEM oil filter) has a bypass pressure of 36.3PSI. 3x more! Would you run the fram or stay OEM?


2017 Volkswagen Jetta 1.4T - 2015 Honda CRV 2.4 - 2012 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 - 2001 Pontiac Sunfire 2.2
Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527047
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Oem.


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527050
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duh


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527064
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That's a huge disparity. Are you certain about the OEM bypass pressure?


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527084
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Don't use it. Use one of these instead:
Mahle OC977/1
Wix WL7503 (Napa Gold 107503)
Mann W712/95
Purflux LS969
Hengst H317W01

The 2016 1.4T is the same as the 2017 1.4T, right? smile

Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4527087
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
That's a huge disparity. Are you certain about the OEM bypass pressure?

Yes.


1 BAR= 14.5PSI


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527096
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Use the OEM filter or an aftermarket filter that has the correct bypass setting such as a Mahle perhaps or Hensgt or a Wix . Oreillys probably has the Wix cheap and the Wix is owned by Mann. Document your oil changes and write down the VIN number, date and mileage on your receipts. Take a pic of your receipts as some can fade.


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527102
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OEM.

Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527104
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The orange can is a detonation fuse!!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!!! run for the choppa!!!!

LOL

The biggest problem with Orange Frams is the anti-drainback valve sometimes causes problems with startup valve train noise. If you get that noise you are causing small amounts of harm to the engine with the dry start. People can whine about the cardboard end caps and "wavey" elements but they are fine for 5K OCI.

If you're just looking for a cheap filter that is readily available, Fram orange with all of its shortcomings fits the bill. If you already bought one dont toss it, go ahead for one OCI and see how the engine likes it. For a few dollars more per can you can buy a much better built filter.

If you don't mind buying in lots of 5 or 10, you can usually find OEM on Ebay for very reasonable prices.

Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527151
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When I had a VW I always bought the filters at the dealer, they were cheap too


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527179
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The real question is, are those figures even relevant?


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: Nick1994] #4527199
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
When I had a VW I always bought the filters at the dealer, they were cheap too


^^This. My oem filters are almost half the cost of Frams at Walmart.


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2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4527202
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
When I had a VW I always bought the filters at the dealer, they were cheap too


^^This. My oem filters are almost half the cost of Frams at Walmart.
Last time I got a filter from the dealership. $16. Walmart$9


2017 Volkswagen Jetta 1.4T - 2015 Honda CRV 2.4 - 2012 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0 - 2001 Pontiac Sunfire 2.2
Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4527203
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Don't use it. Use one of these instead:
Mahle OC977/1
Wix WL7503 (Napa Gold 107503)
Mann W712/95
Purflux LS969
Hengst H317W01

The 2016 1.4T is the same as the 2017 1.4T, right? smile

Can't go wrong with any of these filters. Don't count the dealer filter out either, they're very competitively priced and always available.

If you can get a Purflux, use it! Their crazy-looking zig-zag media lets them stuff a ton of media into a filter.


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Re: Would a Fram be bad for my Jetta? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4527259
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Be thankful the Fram for your car is so easy to find.

I personally don't think your car will know the difference.


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02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
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