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#4525423 - 09/25/17 05:30 AM CQ Red or Microguard
Duffyjr Offline


Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 503
Loc: Nebraska
I've decided that using a Wix my be over kill for me. Both my vehicles are short trippers and see less than 2k every six month OCI. So looking at some of the posts I've narrowed it down to these two. Right now I can get two Red's for less than the price of one Wix. These are for my 5.7 and 3800.

CQ Red R85040 and R85036 $6.74 for both.
Microguard MGL51040 and MGL51036 $10.08 for both.

Or stick with a Wix.
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#4525446 - 09/25/17 06:33 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
FlyingVan Offline


Registered: 11/21/16
Posts: 123
Loc: Tennessee
Or go with a supertech. It is only $2.84 and made by Wix.
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#4525461 - 09/25/17 07:05 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
Kuato Offline


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 7094
Loc: Colorado
Stay with Wix and do a one year OCI. At 6 months and only 2000 miles you are doing yourself a disservice.
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#4525567 - 09/25/17 09:17 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Just buy whatever filters RockAuto is selling for $1.08 each
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#4525568 - 09/25/17 09:17 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Kuato]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Stay with Wix and do a one year OCI. At 6 months and only 2000 miles you are doing yourself a disservice.


Truth.

You are changing your oil and filter (both, each) way way way way too often.
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#4525584 - 09/25/17 09:29 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
WyrTwister Offline


Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1487
Loc: Texas
For the Buick FRAM FP3387A seems to also fit my 2006 Buick 3.8l . They are $ 1.55 each + freight at Rock Auto .

For a 3000 mile OCI / 6 months , would that filter be OK ?

I have been buying filters for our other car from Rock Auto .

Thanks , :-)
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#4525588 - 09/25/17 09:30 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4414
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
I would not use the Carquest (they are now Purolator made)

Originally Posted By: FlyingVan
Or go with a supertech. It is only $2.84 and made by Wix.

Yup. The Microgard is the same filter as the Supertech (it is a Wix Pro-tech, same as NAPA Pro Select).

ST3387a for the LaSabre
ST3980 for the GMC

Or look into the EcoGard filters. Walmart.com has them for $1.86 each (but must order 2 at a time). Shipped to store is free and takes 2 days.
X111 for the LaSabre
X4011 for the GMC
Sometimes Amazon will have them for the same price (and you can get one at a time).
Ecogard also has a synthetic blend filter for $4.42 at Walmart.com for both of your applications
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#4525608 - 09/25/17 09:40 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
Rat407 Offline


Registered: 12/13/02
Posts: 1427
Loc: North Carolina
I get the CQ red here from their multi pack for $2.00 each out the door.
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#4525622 - 09/25/17 09:51 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
Hootbro Offline


Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 2414
Loc: DELAWARE
Honestly, I would want the better filter for a short trip than a cheap filter. Stick with the WIX.
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#4525745 - 09/25/17 12:38 PM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
Posts: 593
Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
Microgard is fine. Get a commercial account at your nearest O'Reilly (any kind of business is fine) and get a really good deal on them if you don't intend to buy your oil at O'Reilly. Or just use the retail $19.99 oil+filter special. Can't be any cheaper.
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#4525841 - 09/25/17 02:19 PM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4414
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Originally Posted By: dogememe
... Or just use the retail $19.99 oil+filter special. Can't be any cheaper.

Supertech oil and filter is $14.81 out the door.
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2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
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#4526021 - 09/25/17 05:27 PM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6135
Loc: USA
CQ filters are now made by Purolator. The CQ Red is a Classic, while the blue is a P1. They will tear.

The Microgard is made by Wix and the same as a Napa Silver or Pro-Tec.

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#4526135 - 09/25/17 07:36 PM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
WyrTwister Offline


Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1487
Loc: Texas
When I order filters from RockAuto.com , I order 6 id I am ordering something else also ( be careful & check if they are coming from the same city / warehouse to avoid higher shipping cost ) .

Otherwise , I order 12 to " spread out " the shipping cost .

Best of luck , :-)
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#4526411 - 09/26/17 06:44 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Linctex]
Duffyjr Offline


Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 503
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Stay with Wix and do a one year OCI. At 6 months and only 2000 miles you are doing yourself a disservice.


Truth.

You are changing your oil and filter (both, each) way way way way too often.


When I say short tripper I should say extreme short tripper. I live a mile and a half from work and neither one gets to running temp in the morning even in the summer. At lunch and after work they may make it up to temp running errands but not for very long and I just don't get them out on the highway like I should. I've never noticed it with my truck but I have smelled fuel on the dip stick with my car a few times doing my 6 month OCI's. It's not enough that it changes the level on the dip stick but I can smell it.

What I have been thinking about is using the Wix and only change it every other change, but if I'm getting fuel in my oil what does that do to the filter?

I know I cold have the oil tested but I'd rather spend that money on new oil and filter because one test wouldn't satisfy me for future changes.
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89 GMC Sierra T5 10w30/Wix
08 Lucerne Mobil 5000 5w30
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#4526586 - 09/26/17 10:29 AM Re: CQ Red or Microguard [Re: Duffyjr]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4414
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
If you want to use a filter for multiple changes, I would use a Fram Ultra (or any other fully synthetic media) filter.
With the full synthetic media, it will not be affected by fuel or moisture.
You could easily leave that filter in place for 2-3 years, just draining the oil every 6 months.
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1994 Honda VT1100C: Peak 15w-40/TG/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI


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