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#4525032 - 09/24/17 05:04 PM Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
I had a couple of Purolator PL24651 filters in my stash and thought I would run at least one of them for 3000 miles to see how these were doing rather than use them for target practice. I figured the filter should go 3000 miles in 2 months using Maxlife 5W30.

Purolator PL24651
Date code: F07F30G1

After 3000 miles, I did notice a little startup rattle so I arranged to see if the ADBV held or not. I came in from a long run, parked the truck and after a couple hours spun the filter off expecting to see a flood of oil which would be normal for this engine. About a tablespoon of oil fell into the drain pan from removing the filter. This means the filter did not have ADBV function. The photos will show the ADBV is in pristine condition so the source of the leak down is not likely the ADBV itself. The ADBV had no tears or cuts and was one of the best ADBVs I have touched. I suspect the sealant they use between the base plate and the external can which holds the gasket is not complete or failing. I had to use a cap wrench to remove the filter as it would not budge. The gasket stuck to the filter mount. I like the gasket, but that is not why I would buy the filter. smile

If you look closely at photo #5 at about 9 O'clock on the base plate, you will see some black residue. I believe that to be the sealant. I do not know if this is the leakage path or not. It would need closer examination and dissection.


IMG_0567-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter label



IMG_0569-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Date Code



IMG_0566-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside of can with leaf spring



IMG_0570-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV in place



IMG_0571-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV showing inlet side of the ADBV



IMG_0580-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Base plate exterior view



IMG_0573-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media showing wide pleat spaces either side of the splice



IMG_0574-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 90 degrees



IMG_0575-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 180 degrees



IMG_0576-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 300 degrees



IMG_0577-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Bypass valve



IMG_0578-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter



IMG_0579-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter on axis view



Since the filter did not tear on the short run, I will use the second one on another short run. I think the Valvoline Maxlife 5W30 shears down a bit after 2000 miles or so and this may contribute to how quickly the oil drains back.

Since the wide pleat spaces are still there, I do not want to take a risk running the filter type for a longer OCI / FCI.

Enjoy and let the discussions begin.

Welloiled.
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#4525039 - 09/24/17 05:15 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10256
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
I had a couple of Purolator PL24651 filters in my stash and thought I would run at least one of them for 3000 miles to see how these were doing rather than use them for target practice. I figured the filter should go 3000 miles in 2 months using Maxlife 5W30.

Purolator PL24651
Date code: F07F30G1

After 3000 miles, I did notice a little startup rattle so I arranged to see if the ADBV held or not. I came in from a long run, parked the truck and after a couple hours spun the filter off expecting to see a flood of oil which would be normal for this engine. About a tablespoon of oil fell into the drain pan from removing the filter. This means the filter did not have ADBV function. The photos will show the ADBV is in pristine condition so the source of the leak down is not likely the ADBV itself. The ADBV had no tears or cuts and was one of the best ADBVs I have touched. I suspect the sealant they use between the base plate and the external can which holds the gasket is not complete or failing. I had to use a cap wrench to remove the filter as it would not budge. The gasket stuck to the filter mount. I like the gasket, but that is not why I would buy the filter. smile

If you look closely at photo #5 at about 9 O'clock on the base plate, you will see some black residue. I believe that to be the sealant. I do not know if this is the leakage path or not. It would need closer examination and dissection.


IMG_0567-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter label



IMG_0569-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Date Code



IMG_0566-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside of can with leaf spring



IMG_0570-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV in place



IMG_0571-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inside surface of the base plate with silicone ADBV showing inlet side of the ADBV



IMG_0580-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Base plate exterior view



IMG_0573-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media showing wide pleat spaces either side of the splice



IMG_0574-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 90 degrees



IMG_0575-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 180 degrees



IMG_0576-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Filter media rotated 300 degrees



IMG_0577-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Bypass valve



IMG_0578-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter



IMG_0579-Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 Inlet/Outlet end of the filter on axis view



Since the filter did not tear on the short run, I will use the second one on another short run. I think the Valvoline Maxlife 5W30 shears down a bit after 2000 miles or so and this may contribute to how quickly the oil drains back.

Since the wide pleat spaces are still there, I do not want to take a risk running the filter type for a longer OCI / FCI.

Enjoy and let the discussions begin.

Welloiled.


I'm a bit lost as to why only spoonful of oil drained out. This filter actually looks OK

If only I could get my dam stubborn brother to stop using Purolator stuff frown
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#4525044 - 09/24/17 05:18 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: car51]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: car51

I'm a bit lost as to why only spoonful of oil drained out. This filter actually looks OK

If only I could get my dam stubborn brother to stop using Purolator stuff frown

The ADBV failed and the oil drained back into the sump. The filter was full of oil.

And yes, the filter and the oil could have gone further.


Edited by WellOiled (09/24/17 05:28 PM)
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#4525050 - 09/24/17 05:25 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10256
Loc: Southwest PA
Ahh I understand now.

Purolator: NEVER AGAIN
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#4525059 - 09/24/17 05:30 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
I would have liked to had a couple of the new ones hot off the press. However, I am not sure it would be worth the effort. Way to many cut ADBVs.

Thanks for the feedback.
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#4525073 - 09/24/17 05:53 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
Thanks to ZeeOSix:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...ble#Post4474681

The date code dissects as follows:
F07F30G1
F = Fayetteville, NC plant
07 = July
F = 2014
30 = 30th day

July 30, 2014.
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#4525085 - 09/24/17 06:06 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29764
Loc: NY
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.
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#4525086 - 09/24/17 06:06 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10256
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Thanks to ZeeOSix:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...ble#Post4474681

The date code dissects as follows:
F07F30G1
F = Fayetteville, NC plant
07 = July
F = 2014
30 = 30th day



July 30, 2014.



We don't use any Purolators at work. On diesels which we don't have bulk oil for I use Autozone for oil and filter. Don't want a Purolator tearing on a diesel
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#4525089 - 09/24/17 06:08 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: demarpaint]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.

I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin

And, you are welcome.


Edited by WellOiled (09/24/17 06:09 PM)
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#4525097 - 09/24/17 06:14 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: car51]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: car51

We don't use any Purolators at work. On diesels which we don't have bulk oil for I use Autozone for oil and filter. Don't want a Purolator tearing on a diesel

The BITOG members in the know with diesels have given Purolator diesel filters two thumbs down. I defer to them.
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#4525118 - 09/24/17 06:35 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10256
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: car51

We don't use any Purolators at work. On diesels which we don't have bulk oil for I use Autozone for oil and filter. Don't want a Purolator tearing on a diesel

The BITOG members in the know with diesels have given Purolator diesel filters two thumbs down. I defer to them.


LOL!

Even my pops uses nothing but Donaldson or Baldwin on his diesel pickup
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#4525144 - 09/24/17 07:10 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7667
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.

I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin

And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!
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#4525156 - 09/24/17 07:40 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: bullwinkle]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29764
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.

I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin

And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!


That would have worked.

Thanks again to the OP for reminding me that my decision to ditch Purolator for good was a wise one.
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#4525190 - 09/24/17 08:27 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: demarpaint]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Thanks for posting. I think rather than use them in your car, target practice would be the better option for them.

I feel like I wasted the Maxlife. frown grin

And, you are welcome.
Well, you could have just changed the filter & left the oil in the sump (since virtually none was left in the removed filter)-Purolator, the ANTI-Ultra, TWO filters per standard OCI!


That would have worked.

Thanks again to the OP for reminding me that my decision to ditch Purolator for good was a wise one.

You guys are right. That would have worked. If I could have found a few more on close out, I could have done a Maxlife TBN retention study. 99.9% efficiency @ 20 microns ISO 4548-12 according to the box. LOL crackmeup That would be just prior to the tear.
Bullwinkle, the filter was full of oil. Only a tablespoon or so came from above the filter.
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#4525228 - 09/24/17 08:56 PM Re: Purolator PL24651-F07F30G1 cut & post [Re: WellOiled]
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Loc: Anaheim, CA
Thanks for posting these photos!
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