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#4524757 - 09/24/17 11:30 AM B17 fly over
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
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I've been lucky this weekend that the flight path of a magnificent American airplane, the B17G, is over my house. They are selling rides that fly over my house maybe every ~2 hours. I'm a huge enthusiast of WWI and WWII aviation. I differently want to add this to my "bucket list". It really is magnificent to see history still flying.

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#4524767 - 09/24/17 11:38 AM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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#4524769 - 09/24/17 11:41 AM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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If you ever want to appreciate the sacrifice Americans made in WWII you must go for a ride in a B-17 and imagine doing it in the dead of winter with enemy airplanes attacking with their guns firing. Then sit there waiting for flack to get you while there is nothing you can do to protect yourself. Actually, there was protection, a beer can between you and an 88 mm shell and a leather jacket.

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#4524770 - 09/24/17 11:43 AM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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I flew on one about 15 years ago a friend of mine got us a ride it was about a two hour flight. One of the best expierence of my life! Just fantastic! Go for it man you will never forget it.

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#4524774 - 09/24/17 11:53 AM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Just crawling though a B17, and thinking about conditions crews experienced in WWII was very sobering.

Had similar thoughts looking at the Mercury capsule at the WPAFB Air force Museum.
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#4524792 - 09/24/17 12:04 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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You should definitely expedite that bucket list, these birds won't be flying forever!! Very unique and awesome sight and sound to witness one go floating past overhead. Only a relative handful of people today can say they've experienced that.

They're a lot smaller in person than I thought and very tight clearances inside. My great uncle was a bombardier on one, 8th USAAF, and either the 92 or 96th Bomber Group and I forget what squadron but they were based at Snetterton-Heath in Great Britain, made it 19 missions before shot down over Holland on way back, spent 1944 through end of war in Luft Stalag #(I forget the number, maybe 3) in Barth, Pomerania. POW camp was liberated by Russian forces.


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#4524793 - 09/24/17 12:05 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: knerml]
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Originally Posted By: knerml
Just crawling though a B17, and thinking about conditions crews experienced in WWII was very sobering..... Had similar thoughts looking at the Mercury capsule at the WPAFB Air force Museum.


Those guys had brass ones, for sure!
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#4524810 - 09/24/17 12:24 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
If you ever want to appreciate the sacrifice Americans made in WWII you must go for a ride in a B-17 and imagine doing it in the dead of winter with enemy airplanes attacking with their guns firing. Then sit there waiting for flack to get you while there is nothing you can do to protect yourself. Actually, there was protection, a beer can between you and an 88 mm shell and a leather jacket.


Just to clarify that description, add:

1. unheated cockpit in -65 degree air.
2. Up to a 25% chance of dying on any given mission.
3. Manning up day after day.
4. A 6% chance of making it to 25 missions and a rotation home.

Bomber crews had a lower survival rate than infantry second lieutenants in World War 1.
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#4524822 - 09/24/17 12:37 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Collings Foundation has a B-17 and a B-24 you can ride in. They may be in your area, check their website. Went for a ride on the Flying Fortress. Unbelievable! Do it!


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#4524858 - 09/24/17 01:14 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: knerml]
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: The Garden State
Originally Posted By: knerml
Just crawling though a B17, and thinking about conditions crews experienced in WWII was very sobering.

Had similar thoughts looking at the Mercury capsule at the WPAFB Air force Museum.


I had the opportunity to "crawl" through several B17's and B24's on the ground and yeah for a 6'1" person they are "tight" quarters shocked2 . You really needed some severe "brass" to go into combat in those. Wherever we travel we always try to find museums that house antique planes or automobiles, there are many small ones around the country. Gee, maybe us antiques like to hang out together grin. It's an important part of history that is unfortunately disappearing both physically and emotionally, sad USA . I was lucky enough to see the RAF museum where they have a fantastic collection of vintage war planes from multiple nations. I'm old and stuck in the past grin2.

Whimsey

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#4524899 - 09/24/17 02:07 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 06/13/16
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Loc: MN
Was it "Aluminum Overcast"? Thats the one I flew in several years ago.
This movie did a decent job of depicting those heroes:

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#4525002 - 09/24/17 04:24 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Linctex]
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Registered: 10/22/09
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Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: knerml
Just crawling though a B17, and thinking about conditions crews experienced in WWII was very sobering..... Had similar thoughts looking at the Mercury capsule at the WPAFB Air force Museum.


Those guys had brass ones, for sure!


Yep! My Dad was a tail gunner on a B17. He came home with a Purple Heart.




Edited by JohnnyJohnson (09/24/17 04:25 PM)
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#4525013 - 09/24/17 04:41 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 11/19/11
Posts: 807
Loc: Lyndhurst NJ
Originally Posted By: Whimsey
I've been lucky this weekend that the flight path of a magnificent American airplane, the B17G, is over my house. They are selling rides that fly over my house maybe every ~2 hours. I'm a huge enthusiast of WWI and WWII aviation. I differently want to add this to my "bucket list". It really is magnificent to see history still flying.

Whimsey


We must be close, I was flying RC planes at my spot in Pine Brook and on the way home I caught a huge grey bomber taking off, it looked like from Essex County Airport. So lucky I got to see it!
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#4525048 - 09/24/17 05:23 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2171
Loc: San Antonio, TX
I took a flight about 10 years ago in this plane's sister B-24 when we lived in Louisiana. My dad had been a tail gunner & waist gunner on B-17's & B-24's in WWII.


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#4525081 - 09/24/17 06:04 PM Re: B17 fly over [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 07/11/15
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Loc: New England
My grandfather survived life as officer/weathermen on a B17 during World War II. A great memory at age 9 was watching him light up when he took me to tour one at an airbase show.

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