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Jeep Compass? #4524291
09/23/17 07:52 PM
09/23/17 07:52 PM
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Albany, NY
ford46guy Offline OP
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Albany, NY
My neighbor bought a 2016 Grand Cherokee and I took him to the dealer to pick it up from service. It loses power unexpectedly. Anyway the salesman there saw my Explorer and said, its a nice truck, but don't you think it is time for something else?
So we talked and I asked for their best value and most reliable.
He suggested the Compass Latitude, he said it has great gas mileage and is very high quality. He said with the trade I can get a fully loaded one for around 25K. They took a quick look at my Explorer on the lift and test drove it, and they gave me some numbers.

It has a 2.4 Tigershark engine. I tried it and I wasn't that impressed with power(loud, I think the Explorer has more torque, I have 4.10s), but it seemed quite nice inside. The salesman said to try it without A/C, seemed a bit peppier. It had 4wd low.

I did a bit of research and they kinda hint with this they are oilburners: http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_0900715.pdf

Says anything over 3000RPM could consume 1qt every 750. None of the cars I drive really burn oil (some seal sweating on some, but they are far from new and I'm aware of it).
I drive over 3000RPM all the time.


Probably not going to buy it, but are these good vehicles?


95 Tbird V8 240K PP SYNTH ULTRA 5W30
98 MGM 160K M1 HM 5W20
96 Explorer EB V6 159K PP SYNTH HM 5W30
95 Conti 155K MC 5W20
11 GS350 90K PP HM 5W30
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524302
09/23/17 08:02 PM
09/23/17 08:02 PM
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Birmingham, AL
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Bad trade IMO, but if you're tired of 16 MPG and a 21 year old truck, it would be a change. Do not expect 2 decades out of a Compass.

Personally...not in a million years. The Explorer would have to have rust half way up the pillars...and then I'd replace it with another Explorer or Ranger.


2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 216K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 199K miles
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524310
09/23/17 08:15 PM
09/23/17 08:15 PM
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Florida
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Florida
I think Compasses are "meh" at best. Good fuel economy..... That's about it. Lol

Would rather go for a RAV4 if looking for a fuel efficient compact SUV.

Myself, I like my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 5.9L smile


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524313
09/23/17 08:24 PM
09/23/17 08:24 PM
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WI
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I really like the new ones, old ones are ok. I'd also look at a Cherokee to get a 3.2 V6. Mines been a good Jeep so far.


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Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524314
09/23/17 08:26 PM
09/23/17 08:26 PM
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VA
Thax Offline
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There are much better options than the Compass in the small suv segment. CR-V , Rav-4 , Tucson and Sportage are a few worth looking at.


2000 Ford Explorer Limited 5.0L AWD
2018 KIA Soul EX 2.0L
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Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524315
09/23/17 08:27 PM
09/23/17 08:27 PM
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MO
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I wouldn't do it either. I personally have not been impressed with newer jeeps. Family has had several Wrangler's from the 90s that we drove till they completely rusted/fell apart. Several co-workers now with newer GC's or jeep patriots that have had nothing but problems with them.


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Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524317
09/23/17 08:33 PM
09/23/17 08:33 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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It is the only cute ute or even mid size SUV (except 4runner)left with a low range, so if you want that and like the rest of the car well enough I guess it will be fine. I don't know about the oil burning tsb, but unless you are going 85mph everywhere I doubt it will be over 3k rpm on the highway.
Probably its best to buy a used one, as everyone thinks they are junk for some reason and resale reflects it.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524319
09/23/17 08:35 PM
09/23/17 08:35 PM
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'murica
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'murica
They don't make cars like they used to, and they don't make Fiats like they make Fords.

Even if price was no object, I would buy your Explorer from you before I would buy a new Compass. 2cents

Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524320
09/23/17 08:35 PM
09/23/17 08:35 PM
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Somewhere
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Somewhere
Originally Posted By: ford46guy

Probably not going to buy it, but are these good vehicles?

Few things FCA makes would be considered "good" vehicles. Reliability ratings don't lie. Jeep is bottom of the barrel.

Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: itguy08] #4524330
09/23/17 08:48 PM
09/23/17 08:48 PM
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Florida
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Florida
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: ford46guy

Probably not going to buy it, but are these good vehicles?

Few things FCA makes would be considered "good" vehicles. Reliability ratings don't lie. Jeep is bottom of the barrel.



I guess I'd be fond of the 90's Jeeps... Cherokees and Wranglers with the AMC 4.0, Grand Cherokees with the 4.0 as well as the 5.2 and 5.9 Magnums. Cherokess AW4 transmission seems to be as robust as a stock transmission out there. The Magnum series engines had a weird plenum-plate issue and some of the transmissions weren't exactly reliable in stock form though.

Nowadays, I've no idea about their reliability. Perhaps the Hellcat variations of the Grand Cherokees would be reliable? But even if I had the money, $84k MSRP... Nope! Not happening. Lol


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524331
09/23/17 08:49 PM
09/23/17 08:49 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

My mom has a 2012 Patriot base model (same as Compass, different skin), has an extended warranty. Oil pan and timing chain cover gaskets were leaking, replaced gaskets under warranty. CVT had a loud whine, dealer thought it was the alternator so they replaced that, didn't solve the issue. Had CVT flushed and that solved the whine, for now. A/C went out, got a new compressor. Suspension squeaked over bumps, got new struts and strut mounts, lower control arm bushings were tearing so they replaced the control arms too. Blend door motor was rapidly clicking, just had that replaced. Red lightning bolt came on the dash this month and loss of power, had throttle body replaced. They also found the a/c was leaking from a service port, replaced valve and recharged a/c.

Rear suspension creaks too, I will look it over before the warranty expires this next spring.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 84k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524334
09/23/17 08:57 PM
09/23/17 08:57 PM
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PV Az
I realize Consumer Reports is toxic around here but FYI the Compass is last place with an overall rating of 47 (perfect score 100) with every other cute ute in the 70s except the Mitsi Outlander.... and other Jeeps. Might want to do some research.


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14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

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Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524347
09/23/17 09:09 PM
09/23/17 09:09 PM
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Posts: 3,079
Midwest, Illinois
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Midwest, Illinois
Tigershark makes a lot of noise, doesn't do much.
Mine consistantly uses a quart of 0w20 every 3000 miles.
Just for grins, I ran a 30 weight once. Guess what. No consumption in 10k.
Still made a lot of noise, no guts.


beanoil: Tough under heat, real dirty afterwards.
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: ford46guy] #4524348
09/23/17 09:15 PM
09/23/17 09:15 PM
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Ohio
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Ohio
Originally Posted By: ford46guy
My neighbor bought a 2016 Grand Cherokee and I took him to the dealer to pick it up from service. It loses power unexpectedly. Anyway the salesman there saw my Explorer and said, its a nice truck, but don't you think it is time for something else?
So we talked and I asked for their best value and most reliable.
He suggested the Compass Latitude, he said it has great gas mileage and is very high quality. He said with the trade I can get a fully loaded one for around 25K. They took a quick look at my Explorer on the lift and test drove it, and they gave me some numbers.

It has a 2.4 Tigershark engine. I tried it and I wasn't that impressed with power(loud, I think the Explorer has more torque, I have 4.10s), but it seemed quite nice inside. The salesman said to try it without A/C, seemed a bit peppier. It had 4wd low.

I did a bit of research and they kinda hint with this they are oilburners: http://www.wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_0900715.pdf

Says anything over 3000RPM could consume 1qt every 750. None of the cars I drive really burn oil (some seal sweating on some, but they are far from new and I'm aware of it).
I drive over 3000RPM all the time.


Probably not going to buy it, but are these good vehicles?


I'll put it this way........
If you want to make a salesperson happy and make yourself miserable, go for it!


2012 Honda Accord LX-P 93K
2008 Ford Mustang Pony Package Convertible 17K
2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L 76K
2003 Ford Ranger 3.0 Supercab 110K
Re: Jeep Compass? [Re: Thax] #4524392
09/23/17 10:14 PM
09/23/17 10:14 PM
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Colorado
Kuato Offline
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Colorado
Originally Posted By: Thax
There are much better options than the Compass in the small suv segment. CR-V , Rav-4 , Tucson and Sportage are a few worth looking at.


Don't forget Mazda CX-5 and several Subarus.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
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