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VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN #4523801
09/23/17 08:35 AM
09/23/17 08:35 AM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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So, I decided that since I have some WIX filters for the 09' Camry of mine; and 6 FU filters and a Tough Guard and decided I'd sacrifice this filter.

Date is December 7, 2016 12:50 is time

Enjoy the pics












09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523805
09/23/17 08:39 AM
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Looks Great For a budget filter. Thanks for the sacrifice!


2012 Hyundai Santa Fe, 130,000 miles, Havoline Pro DS Full Syn 5W-20, Auto7 Filter.
2014 Kia Rio, 80,000 miles, Havoline Pro DS Syn 5W-30, WIX Filter
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: Urshurak776] #4523808
09/23/17 08:41 AM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Urshurak776
Looks Great For a budget filter. Thanks for the sacrifice!


Well, seeing BluPuphers c&p ST filter while back; decided when my FRAM stuff is used up, I'll use eco guard as they are cheap at Rural King. Dad uses WIX on his 03' dakota and his 89' Ram with 5.9 Cummins. If I used a ST, it would be for 4K


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523818
09/23/17 08:49 AM
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Are the eco guard filters cheaper than the ST? I don't have RK near me.

Last edited by Urshurak776; 09/23/17 08:50 AM.

2012 Hyundai Santa Fe, 130,000 miles, Havoline Pro DS Full Syn 5W-20, Auto7 Filter.
2014 Kia Rio, 80,000 miles, Havoline Pro DS Syn 5W-30, WIX Filter
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523819
09/23/17 08:49 AM
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Nice low cost oil filter.

I like lots of holes in the center tube.

Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: Mr Nice] #4523828
09/23/17 09:03 AM
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53' Stude Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Urshurak776
Are the eco guard filters cheaper than the ST? I don't have RK near me.


I snagged 4 ECO GUARD 4476 For $1.51 each smile

Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Nice low cost oil filter.

I like lots of holes in the center tube.


Me too Mr. nice smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523851
09/23/17 09:37 AM
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Mahzurrah!
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I like these entry level Wix made filters. Typical stout Wix construction at a great price. Efficiency is "meh" but fine for the shorter OCI's these filters are intended for.

I prefer the Napa Silver versions...in the sizes I use I can actually get a thread end bypass on a 3 buck filter the SuperTech versions don't have thread end bypasses as far as I have seen. They all have the combo's shown here or dome end bypasses.

For example the 1516 (FL-400s equivalent) I just bought is thread end on a Silver and dome on a SuperTech.



09 Lincoln MKZ AWD 98k - M1 AFE 0w30
12 KIA Sedona 92k - PP HM 10w30
09 Ford Focus 131k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
00 Chev Lumina 201k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee gone but not forgotten.
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523864
09/23/17 09:54 AM
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Looks similar to the Napa proselect. Compared to most places around here, the proselect goes for about 4$ or so..other big stores sell the OCOD for 7.75$ as the cheapest filter. Great construction, the efficiency likely less than a high end filter but it does the job well.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4523872
09/23/17 10:09 AM
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Thanks for the C&P. looks like they consolidated 4967 and 4836 and made it the smaller version. Is it smaller than a regular fram 4386 or more like the 4967?


2004 Toyota Solara SE 2.4 2AZFE
182,000 miles
Castrol Magnatec Semi-Syn 5W30
Royal Purple 20-400 oversize 2nd run
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: THafeez] #4523876
09/23/17 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: THafeez
Thanks for the C&P. looks like they consolidated 4967 and 4836 and made it the smaller version. Is it smaller than a regular fram 4386 or more like the 4967?


4967 is about 1" shorter than the 4386


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4524069
09/23/17 02:22 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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The thing to remember with the ST filters with the combo valve is the filter element is much shorter compared to a similar size can Fram due to the length of the combo valve.

As for price, at Walmart the ST is $2.84 in stock in store.
The EcoGard is $1.86 (but must order 2 at a time) and need to wait for it to be delivered to store (2 days last time I ordered them).
$3.77 for a Fram Orange can.

These are for the ST/PH2 size filter, but prices are the same for others from what I can see.

The ST filter was going to be my go to filter, but after the last one I cut open, I am not sure sure anymore.


2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI

Re: VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4524097
09/23/17 03:00 PM
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The Old North State
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This particular ST application uses a combo valve but not all do. The popular ST9688 and ST3614 both use a dome bypass. And these are intended for ~5k mile max oci.

As for Ecogard some anecdotes show an issue with QC of the China made filter. As the rust in the dome of this one shows seems they may have some rust prevention issues. And for me, I don't care if it is on the "dirty side". In bypass event, that means nothing.

Thanks for c&p.


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