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Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) #4522731
09/21/17 11:38 PM
09/21/17 11:38 PM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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Oreilly carries master pro bar oil that just feels like regular ND 30wt.

Is it likely that the super sticky bar oil sometimes gets confused with pain ole 30wt?

I mean, i know there are some thick and sticky bar oils but this house brand oil doesn't feel like one of them


Supertech Junky
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4522767
09/22/17 01:38 AM
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I've wondered what makes bar oil different if in fact, it is different.

I have an Echo 490 and ran out of bar oil. To keep working I used some leftover Red Line MTL. The result? At the same flow setting, it showed less spray when you do the test by running the saw at full throttle while aiming the bar at something to observe the spray. Also, there was less oil smoke when cutting large green pine logs about the full reach of the 20" bar.

I have no idea if this is really better or not.

Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4522874
09/22/17 06:52 AM
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As someone who has cut more than a few ton of wood every year, dry hardwood, I found out a little trick with bar oils.
I know there is an adversity to additives in oil by some here but I added (after well shaking the bottle on a lab flask shaker) some Nulon Diesel oil PTFE additive (like Slick 50 if you like).

The result was a surprise to me. Bar guide wear went down to an amazingly reduced rate! Also the power went to the cutting teeth, rather than lost on the bar & guide.

FYI I added it to Stihl bar oil..... which is tacky...

I feel it more than doubled the bar life (18" bars), based on my before and after bar and chain purchases..

Might be worth trying in your cheapy storebrand oil, depends how much cutting you do... shrug


15 Pajero 3.2 Penrite 10w40 full syn 50K km
06 Suzuki Swift Sport 1.6L 5w30 Nulon full syn
17 Suzuki DR650: Trialing LUBEALLOY LA 35 ES
83 350 Chev powered Ski Boat: Nulon 15w40
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4522900
09/22/17 07:27 AM
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I have been cutting wood for almost 30 years,
and the best bar oil for me
is whatever used motor oil is laying around. It all works the same.


To answer your question, no API oversight exists for bar chain oils.

Anyone can put ANYTHING THEY WANT to in a jug and market it as "Bar Oil".
Which is pretty much why I use used engine oil, and around here its pretty mix syn blend anyway.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4522958
09/22/17 08:28 AM
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Most bar oils are basic mineral oils with tackifiers added to them so pick your favorite.... Probably not going to make much difference.

If you really are a supertech junky, I have had good luck with supertech bar and chain oil. It looks like 10w-30 with some extra sticky tackifiers added to it. Cheap and works well!


18 Honda CR-V - Factory Fill
17 Ram 1500 SLT - Napa Synthetic 5w-20
14 Yamaha Super Tenere - Delvac 15w-40
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: Linctex] #4523086
09/22/17 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
I have been cutting wood for almost 30 years,
and the best bar oil for me
is whatever used motor oil is laying around. It all works the same.


To answer your question, no API oversight exists for bar chain oils.

Anyone can put ANYTHING THEY WANT to in a jug and market it as "Bar Oil".
Which is pretty much why I use used engine oil, and around here its pretty mix syn blend anyway.

Even if I let it settle for months I still found it a bit stinky with used oil, made my saw stink and any little leak or spill made it worse. Plus used oil is many times worse for you than new oil.
I will mix in various new oils in with my bar oil through, just to get rid of partial quarts, or old stuff I forgot about, but I like to have some tackifier in the mix.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523181
09/22/17 01:41 PM
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The Motor City
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I have an old bottle of Slick 50 on my shelf. I couldn't use it and didn't want to throw it away. Now I know where to use it.

Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523191
09/22/17 01:47 PM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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I added 15w40 to my new saw today.

Everything is nice and lubed


Supertech Junky
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523207
09/22/17 02:18 PM
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I'm using a can of 50w Amalie, works great. Its 40 yrs old.


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523665
09/23/17 12:00 AM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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All the chainsaw guys keep saying ( no no no bar oil is special)

Yet im sure alls they know is the information on the can....

If special thick snotty bar oil isn't readily available for me to get im getting oil out of the diesel stash


Supertech Junky
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523666
09/23/17 12:02 AM
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ATF works and keeps it from clogging.

Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4523670
09/23/17 12:16 AM
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What are the tackifiers made of?

Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: Ducked] #4523904
09/23/17 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
What are the tackifiers made of?


Bright stock.

Same as STP or Lucas oil additive.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: 2strokeNorthstar] #4524082
09/23/17 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: 2strokeNorthstar
ATF works and keeps it from clogging.


Mineral Bar oil doesnt cloggs....unless you are using BIOstuff


2011 Hyundai i30 1.4 CVVT Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Bar oil ( that isnt tacky ) [Re: leroyd92] #4526101
09/25/17 07:01 PM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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I cut a few bits of tree wood the other day... 15w40 was in the oiler.

Bar was 15 hotter then the ambient temp... And honestly,i think the bright clear sky /sun had more to do with that over the friction.

I'm cutting fire wood.


Supertech Junky
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