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Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS #4521969
09/21/17 07:10 AM
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I found the Pennzoil Platinum Dexos1 Gen 2 PDS Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 PDS they are now advertising 50% cleaner than the toughest industry standard. they previously had to lower the old formulation to 30% cleaner when the new Gen 2 deposit test came out. I think its very impressive. Not much seperating PP and PUP now that they made PP thicker and cleaner than the previous formulation.


125k Mile 11 Dodge Durango 5.7L Hemi PP HM or QSUD 5w20 or 0w20 w/Purolator Boss or Wix XP

40k Mile 2015 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar Pennzoil Platinum or QSUD 0/5W20, or 5W30
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4521977
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Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: PimTac] #4521993
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.

You mean not many blenders want to pay for it?


08 Honda Accord EX-L 2.4L M1 EP 0w20 145k
01 Kymco People 50
95 Lexus LS400 M1 AFE 0w30 193k
95 Yamaha Jog
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4522016
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Originally Posted By: Mathew_Boss
I found the Pennzoil Platinum Dexos1 Gen 2 PDS Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 PDS they are now advertising up to 50% cleaner than the toughest industry standard. they previously had to lower the old formulation to 30% cleaner when the new Gen 2 deposit test came out.


Fixed it for you. Looks like pretty good oil, especially considering finding 0W-20 PUP at a good price is difficult. I got 10 quarts of PUP from Wally World but my Amazon order (placed July 26) had the estimated arrival date change from Sept. 14 to no ETA.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Brybo86] #4522026
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.

You mean not many blenders want to pay for it?


Mobil 1 did if I remember correctly.


2017 Chevy Traverse - 28k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF63
2014 Chevy Equinox - 22k - Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
2015 GMC Terrain - 22k- Delco Dexos 1 and PF457G
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4522046
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Originally Posted By: Mathew_Boss
I found the Pennzoil Platinum Dexos1 Gen 2 PDS Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 PDS they are now advertising 50% cleaner than the toughest industry standard. they previously had to lower the old formulation to 30% cleaner when the new Gen 2 deposit test came out. I think its very impressive. Not much seperating PP and PUP now that they made PP thicker and cleaner than the previous formulation.


Well one bureaucrat in government can change all that with one stroke of his pen.


2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: PimTac] #4522104
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.


I did not see that the 0W20 has the HTO-06 approval. Only the 5W30.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Brybo86] #4522116
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
You mean not many blenders want to pay for it?


Prove it. It's an interesting hypothesis, but how do you know that an oil lacking certification is just because a blender doesn't feel like paying for it?


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: 77GrandPrix] #4522456
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Originally Posted By: 77GrandPrix
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.


I did not see that the 0W20 has the HTO-06 approval. Only the 5W30.




Page one of the PDS linked above under Specifications, Approvals and Recommendations.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: PimTac] #4522467
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: 77GrandPrix
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.


I did not see that the 0W20 has the HTO-06 approval. Only the 5W30.




Page one of the PDS linked above under Specifications, Approvals and Recommendations.


On the Pennzoil website, on the page for Platinum the PDS links take me to the PDS for Ultra Platinum. The 0W20 Ultra Platinum is not HTO-06 approved.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4522478
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I just checked and SOPUS still has the outdated PDS up. I click on the "0w-20" link to get the PDS.


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Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4522528
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
You mean not many blenders want to pay for it?


Prove it. It's an interesting hypothesis, but how do you know that an oil lacking certification is just because a blender doesn't feel like paying for it?



What he said is true.

Just look at when Dexos first came out. PLENTY of oils met the spec but a few oil companies didn't want to pay the license fee to GM. Once Dexos proved that it was here to stay and GM made it a required spec everybody, even SUPERTECH, came to meet the spec.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: 77GrandPrix] #4522540
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Originally Posted By: 77GrandPrix
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Impressive. It also has the Honda HTO-06 certification. Not many 0w-20 oils can say that.
I did not see that the 0W20 has the HTO-06 approval. Only the 5W30.
The 0W-20 Platinum I poured in this afternoon claims HTO-06. The 5W-20 version does not (but has to pass TEOST coking tests from which 0W-20 is exempt, if I understand correctly.)

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2011 Toyota Prius now at 94K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4522698
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I just bought 20 quarts of the PUP 5W-30 at WallyWorld for $25. They have the $2/quart rebate going on until the end of the years so with tax I'm at $17.25 per 5-quart bottle.

Re: Pennzoil Platinum Dexos 1 Gen 2 PDS [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4522709
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Wonder how long until the equivalent Shell Helix Ultra product will take to arrive in Aus?...

Not that I need it, Dexos2 FTW. these new ultra thin oils are not friends with my older turbo cars...

Jordan

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