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Toyota Oil Filter Confusion #4521024
09/20/17 07:39 AM
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How can I find out the relationships between Toyota oil filter numbers? It seems I often get different numbers for the same vehicle from different dealers and quite honestly, I don't always trust the parts guys.
I have come to know that things such as bypass pressure are very important.

According to the most current Toyota oil filter application chart PDF 2015-2016, my vehicle uses a 90915-YZZG1 but my dealership sold me a 90915-YZZG2.

I have been shown on other sites that the G2 replaced the G1. Ok, I am good so far. However, when I go and look up my car on the Toyota parts sites they say my car uses a D1 and that the G2 won't work.
If the G2 replaced the G1, why won't the G2 work? Why does the official Toyota PDF on oil filters 2015-2016 show a different filter that the parts stores online.

Is there a Toyota filter guru?


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521078
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I checked the Toyota site I typically use (Camelback Toyota), and they say the 90915-YZZD1 has been replaced by the 90915-YZZG2. I'm not sure why your Toyota site would lead you to believe differently unless it's a glitch on their part. Use the G2 with confidence.

Also, on the Purolator, Wix, and AC Delco sites, both 90915-YZZG1/G2 and 90915-YZZD1 cross reference to the same filter - looks good from here.


Last edited by Squirrelee; 09/20/17 08:54 AM.

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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521086
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Thanks for your help. It's still very weird when I follow the flow in my OP and it gives me that particular recommendation . What got me thinking yesterday while watching the Parts Mgr was his indecisiveness while trying to figure which filter to get me. He seemed very unsure...


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521090
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I think Toyota changes up the part numbers just to keep people confused so they always buy from the dealers.

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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521137
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This part has been superseded by... (a more expensive and inferior part)


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521221
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The G1/G2 series are Puro filters, there was a Denso/Purolator joint venture that supplied most of Toyota's filters for US production. Not sure if Mann-Hummel decided to end it.

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.

Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: nthach] #4521272
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Originally Posted By: nthach
The G1/G2 series are Puro filters, there was a Denso/Purolator joint venture that supplied most of Toyota's filters for US production. Not sure if Mann-Hummel decided to end it.

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.

I ran a PH4967 sized filter in my Avalon in a pinch for about two days after an oil change. It really is too small for that motor, which takes the PH3614 size (or bigger if you wish)


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: nthach] #4521276
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Originally Posted By: nthach
...

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.


nthach,

Help me understand what you are trying to tell me with this statement.


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521277
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The D1 and G2 are interchangeable, use one or the other, all the same except where it's made and the design. Does the G2 have louvers instead of round holes in the center tube?

It may be because Denso Thailand is having a hard time producing enough filters, is my guess why the G2 is a preplacement for the D1

Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: goodtimes] #4521283
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Originally Posted By: goodtimes
The D1 and G2 are interchangeable, use one or the other, all the same except where it's made and the design. Does the G2 have louvers instead of round holes in the center tube?

It may be because Denso Thailand is having a hard time producing enough filters, is my guess why the G2 is a preplacement for the D1


The G2 has round holes in the tubes, made in USA, and red/pink silicone valve. ON the top of the canister it has stamped "F07J31E2G"


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'02 4Runner 225K
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'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
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'07 Lex GX470 60K
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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521285
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
Originally Posted By: nthach
...

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.


nthach,

Help me understand what you are trying to tell me with this statement.

The cars that use the small 4-cylinder F1/F2 filters can use either one, space dependent. The D3 V8 filter can be used on B9 V6/I6 applications. Don't use the F1/F2 on the bigger engines.

Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Gebo] #4521286
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
I have come to know that things such as bypass pressure are very important.


"......bypass pressure are very important"

Sorry, what is your rationale behind this statement?

I would correct it to say: "things such as bypass pressure are really not very important at all"


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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: L_Sludger] #4521287
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Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Originally Posted By: nthach
The G1/G2 series are Puro filters, there was a Denso/Purolator joint venture that supplied most of Toyota's filters for US production. Not sure if Mann-Hummel decided to end it.

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.

I ran a PH4967 sized filter in my Avalon in a pinch for about two days after an oil change. It really is too small for that motor, which takes the PH3614 size (or bigger if you wish)

I should have clarified that. But then again, Nissan runs a thimble on their V8s. What I meant to say is the 4-cylinder filters can be used on most 4-cylinder Toyotas, with caution to clearance.

Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: Linctex] #4521294
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: Gebo
I have come to know that things such as bypass pressure are very important.


"......bypass pressure are very important"

Sorry, what is your rationale behind this statement?

I would correct it to say: "things such as bypass pressure are really not very important at all"


Maybe I should have said, "I have come to believe..." smirk


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'02 4Runner 225K
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'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
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Re: Toyota Oil Filter Confusion [Re: nthach] #4521296
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Originally Posted By: nthach
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Originally Posted By: nthach
The G1/G2 series are Puro filters, there was a Denso/Purolator joint venture that supplied most of Toyota's filters for US production. Not sure if Mann-Hummel decided to end it.

I know someone at the local dealer and he says there is interchangeability between the 2 smaller spin-ons(F1/F2 which are PH4386/PH4967 sized) and the 2 bigger ones(B9/D3 but both are PH3614, however the D3 is closer to an FL400S). They won't officially support that for obvious reasons.

I ran a PH4967 sized filter in my Avalon in a pinch for about two days after an oil change. It really is too small for that motor, which takes the PH3614 size (or bigger if you wish)

I should have clarified that. But then again, Nissan runs a thimble on their V8s. What I meant to say is the 4-cylinder filters can be used on most 4-cylinder Toyotas, with caution to clearance.


Understood...


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