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Tire Recommendation #4520958
09/20/17 07:12 AM
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I'm trying to help a friend get new tires onto their Elantra; I think it's a base model 2016, give or take (manual transmission, so it's gotta be basest of base). Will nail down tire size later on today. I want to give my usual recommendation for RT43's, but want to make sure I give an unbiased opinion. I think he drives a lot, perhaps 30k/year; car is in NH and will deal with winter. I think this is a 195/65R15 tire, so Michelin might be reasonably priced. I suspect he won't be using snow tires so I'd like to err on the side of snow traction (I'll recommend snow tires but...). Also, waiting for Black Friday is out of the question, as he has one bald tire.

Cooper CS5, Hankook 727, General RT43, Continental TrueContact (PureContact? not sure on difference?), Michelin Defender. Anything else?

I think the 727's are getting old in tooth, but IIRC they used to be well recommended. CS5 is a favorite here I know, as is the RT43 (my favorite); not sure on the last two.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4520962
09/20/17 07:20 AM
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I insisted on putting RT43s on my daughter's Impreza a few days after we bought it new, as a student she can stay home during big storms or else I would have insisted on snow tires. They have worked very well for her, but I don't have any experience with any of the other tires you mentioned.
FWIW, Consumer Reports gave the T rated RT43s better winter scores than the higher speed rated versions of that tire.


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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4520965
09/20/17 07:21 AM
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Yeah, I had recently seen the bit about T vs H, will make sure I recommend that, if he goes that way.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4520971
09/20/17 07:31 AM
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If he's a annual high mileage driver I'd suggest the Michelin Defender. If not I'd go with a cheaper tire because he'll never get the value wear wise out of the Michelin. That has always been my problem so I went with the Hankook's and have been very happy with them.


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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4520991
09/20/17 08:03 AM
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All I have bought is the Generals since I found them. I am probably at 16 or 18 straight now on various vehicles, we just put two badly needed ones on the front of my son's girlfriend's badly neglected Cobalt.

I think this is one of those deals where you don't need to do the research, you already know the answer. The Generals fall into the sweet spot of value, performance and longevity that make them just about impossible to beat IMO.


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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521006
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I had 727s and never really cared for them. Personally it would be between RT43s and the Contis. Leaning Contis. They are supposed to be a suburb tire all around


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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521012
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I had the twin RT43 from Walmart called Exclaim HPX 205/50R 17 installed on my Impreza on June 29th. No complaints after 7,000 miles. They were $76.×× each using a family member discount. Not a bad price for a 700 A A rated tire.


'12 Impreza Sport Limited 157K - Moil 1 EP 0W20
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521015
09/20/17 08:31 AM
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Go for Michelin Defenders if he drives alot or a similar high mileage rated tire.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: Rolla07] #4521040
09/20/17 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Go for Michelin Defenders if he drives alot or a similar high mileage rated tire.


Agreed +1


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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521057
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Are the Defenders better than Primacy?


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521069
09/20/17 09:36 AM
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Yokohama Avid Ascend
Kuhmo Solus TA11

I'd add those to the list to consider.


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2015 Chrysler T&C, 75k+, M1 AFE 0W20, Fram TG OF
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521096
09/20/17 10:12 AM
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I recommend the Conti TrueContact, which is made in USA in 195/65R15. That's what I have on my Corolla and though it's early days, so far they are great. Winter ratings are excellent. I also had a good experience with the H727 on my Saturn years ago, but all else equal I would go with the Contis.

Note that if his Elantra has the optional 16s (205/55R16) the OE speed rating is H, so some tires shops will not install a T-rated tire such as several of the ones mentioned here.


2005 Corolla LE, 1.8L
Valvoline MaxLife HM full synthetic 5w-30
Continental TrueContact 195/65R15


Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521121
09/20/17 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: supton
Are the Defenders better than Primacy?


Primacy is out, Premier is in.

Whether Premier is better than Defender depends on your definition of “better”.


Robert
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Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: DuckRyder] #4521123
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Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
Originally Posted By: supton
Are the Defenders better than Primacy?


Primacy is out, Premier is in.

Whether Premier is better than Defender depends on your definition of “better”.


Primacy were miserable, 30k and worn out, and the only tire I've had that did better in snow after being half worn. Awful tire. I guess they were ok in rain, and had wet traction to the end (ran to 40k, way past where I should have), wore nice and rode well. But man, scariest things I've ever had in snow.

Last edited by supton; 09/20/17 10:45 AM.

2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 190k, his
Re: Tire Recommendation [Re: supton] #4521165
09/20/17 11:27 AM
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Defender is one of the best overall tires IMHO. They have great longevity (90k miles according to Consumer Reports) and quiet ride. Good braking. Just don't use them on a race track.

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