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#4520268 - 09/19/17 12:43 PM Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L
jh0 Offline


Registered: 09/06/11
Posts: 7
Loc: SE Michigan
This was mostly highway driving, took a trip from Michigan to Connecticut.

Blackstone Labs comments:
Wow, nice improvement! This 3,000-mile run is a great place to start looking for the ideal oil change
interval for your Expedition. Now that we know how many miles are on the oil, we can start increasing the
miles until we find the ideal mix of wear/miles. Metals all tested at healthy levels, oil physical properties were
very good, and both air and oil filtration look top-notch. The TBN was very strong at 6.0, showing plenty of
active additive remaining for more use. Increase the interval to 5,000 miles, then check back about going
further. Nice engine!

Oil filter:
PureOne PL24651 (did not replace this oil change)

Air filter:
Fram CA8039 Extra Guard (replaced before this oil change cycle)

Code:
[/code]
OIL             Castrol Edge EP 5W30	
MILES IN USE   	3,000	 		
O&F CHANGED    	NO FILTER		 
MILES          	154,163
MAKEUP OIL		0		
SAMPLE TAKEN    5-SEPT-2017


ALUMINUM        4         
CHROMIUM        0       
IRON            6       
COPPER          5       
LEAD            0       
TIN             0        
MOLYBDENUM      79       
NICKEL          0        
MANGANESE       0        
SILVER          0        
TITANIUM        24        
POTASSIUM       0      
BORON           270       
SILICON         11       
SODIUM          8       
CALCIUM         2092     
MAGNESIUM       8    
PHOSPHORUS      735      
ZINC            781     
BARIUM          0
      
                             Values Should Be*
SUS Viscosity @ 210F  59.8         55-62
cSt Viscosity @ 100C  10.16        8.8-11.1
Flashpoint in F      	445         >365          
Fuel %                 <0.5         <2.0           
Antifreeze %            0.0          0.0         
Water %                 0.0          0.0         
Insolubles %            0.1         <0.6
TBN                     6.0	    >1.0
[code]

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#4520457 - 09/19/17 04:27 PM Re: Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L [Re: jh0]
VetteElite Offline


Registered: 04/20/13
Posts: 115
Loc: -
Sorry I'm confused. Was there any particular reason you ran EP for 3,000?

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#4520481 - 09/19/17 04:59 PM Re: Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L [Re: jh0]
2015_PSD Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
Posts: 7231
Loc: SE Texas
Originally Posted By: jh0
Blackstone Labs comments: Wow, nice improvement! This 3,000-mile run is a great place to start looking for the ideal oil change interval for your Expedition. Now that we know how many miles are on the oil, we can start increasing the miles until we find the ideal mix of wear/miles. Metals all tested at healthy levels, oil physical properties were very good, and both air and oil filtration look top-notch. The TBN was very strong at 6.0, showing plenty of active additive remaining for more use. Increase the interval to 5,000 miles, then check back about going further. Nice engine!
Nice improvement over what? Do you have another UOA to share? If 3K is to be your OCI (even if 5K is to be your OCI), unless you are getting free EP, I would switch to a conventional oil (any conventional oil--the cheaper the better as long as it meets API SM or SN). A premium synthetic is a waste at that OCI.
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#4520492 - 09/19/17 05:09 PM Re: Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L [Re: VetteElite]
BobsArmory Offline


Registered: 03/28/10
Posts: 1320
Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: VetteElite
Sorry I'm confused. Was there any particular reason you ran EP for 3,000?


Because he wanted to?
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#4520568 - 09/19/17 06:34 PM Re: Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L [Re: 2015_PSD]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10128
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Nice improvement over what? Do you have another UOA to share? If 3K is to be your OCI (even if 5K is to be your OCI), unless you are getting free EP, I would switch to a conventional oil (any conventional oil--the cheaper the better as long as it meets API SM or SN). A premium synthetic is a waste at that OCI.


Here's his previous UOA:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4507054/Unkwn_5W/30,_2004_Ford_Expedit#Post4507054

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#4530663 - 09/30/17 09:39 PM Re: Castrol Edge EP 5W30, 3000mi 2004 Ford Expy 5.4L [Re: SatinSilver]
jh0 Offline


Registered: 09/06/11
Posts: 7
Loc: SE Michigan
Correct, that is the reason. I had high iron (40ppm) on the last UOA. One response made me think I may have engine problems. Going for 5000mi or maybe skip right to 8000mi.


Edited by jh0 (09/30/17 09:40 PM)

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