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AEM #4518755
09/17/17 03:38 PM
09/17/17 03:38 PM
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Tug Hill, NY
Corelokt Offline OP
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Ordered an aem cone filter. I'll let you know what I think when it gets here.


86 CUCV. 6.5L. Level-3 4L80. NP205. 9-16 14 ply tires, HX35/40 turbo. WMI. 5" exh. ARP studs heads & crank. Cooling upgrades. Rattle can camo.
Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4518774
09/17/17 04:03 PM
09/17/17 04:03 PM
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Besides giving up the quality of filtering and exposing your fuel injection system to potential problems what are you expecting?

Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4518796
09/17/17 04:45 PM
09/17/17 04:45 PM
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I ran a Mazdaspeed-a re-badged AEM-cold air intake with a Dryflow filter element on my 2007 MS3 for over 115,000 miles. According to Mazda it added @25 hp; in my testing it chopped 0.60 seconds off the 30-70 mph times in third gear. Here's what Blackstone Labs had to say about the last UOA before I traded it for the 2er(at 153,000 miles with a 7,100 OCI on 5W-30 M1 EP):

Here's another great one! Really, our only complaint about your Mazdaspeed 3 is that we never
have anything to discuss, since its received eleventy-billion excellent reports, and you've heard everything
there is to say about this venerable engine. Wear remains steady as a rock once again, and metals are all
well balanced and at appropriate levels for your interval. There's no contamination to speak of, air and oil
filtration still look good
, and the TBN was nice and strong at 4.7. As usual, our suggestion for you is - don't
change a thing! You're obviously doing a great job.


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Re: AEM [Re: MCompact] #4518857
09/17/17 05:51 PM
09/17/17 05:51 PM
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Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted By: MCompact
I ran a Mazdaspeed-a re-badged AEM-cold air intake with a Dryflow filter element on my 2007 MS3 for over 115,000 miles. According to Mazda it added @25 hp; in my testing it chopped 0.60 seconds off the 30-70 mph times in third gear. Here's what Blackstone Labs had to say about the last UOA before I traded it for the 2er(at 153,000 miles with a 7,100 OCI on 5W-30 M1 EP):

Here's another great one! Really, our only complaint about your Mazdaspeed 3 is that we never
have anything to discuss, since its received eleventy-billion excellent reports, and you've heard everything
there is to say about this venerable engine. Wear remains steady as a rock once again, and metals are all
well balanced and at appropriate levels for your interval. There's no contamination to speak of, air and oil
filtration still look good
, and the TBN was nice and strong at 4.7. As usual, our suggestion for you is - don't
change a thing! You're obviously doing a great job.



UOA doesn't detect all particle sizes. How do you know that the filter wasn't letting through something that Blackstone isn't testing for and/or can't detect?

I'm not saying they're wrong, but you should be looking at the UOA results with the right lens.


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Re: AEM [Re: dparm] #4518886
09/17/17 06:22 PM
09/17/17 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: dparm

UOA doesn't detect all particle sizes. How do you know that the filter wasn't letting through something that Blackstone isn't testing for and/or can't detect?

I'm not saying they're wrong, but you should be looking at the UOA results with the right lens.


Well, silicon was measured at 6 ppm- which was identical to the universal average for the 2.3L 4-cyl Turbo DISI motor. Insolubles were at 0.4%; Blackstone considers anything under 0.6% to be acceptable.
What else should Blackstone be testing for? What are the undetectable harmful substances that I need to be be aware of?


Mine:
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2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4518895
09/17/17 06:35 PM
09/17/17 06:35 PM
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I installed an AEM Dryflow a/f on my 2014 Focus when I deleted the 'snorkel' (factory installed plastic tube with holes that was restricting airflow to the engine.) Removing the snorkel improved drivability tremendously.
I plan on washing the AEM approx. every 15 or 20K.


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Re: AEM [Re: OneEyeJack] #4518952
09/17/17 07:36 PM
09/17/17 07:36 PM
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Missouri
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Besides giving up the quality of filtering and exposing your fuel injection system to potential problems what are you expecting?


If he installed an AEM dryflow their filtration rating is better than many paper filters.

Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4518986
09/17/17 08:15 PM
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AEM Dry Flow filters are not one of the filters that lets in a ton of dirt. I've been running mine for almost 40k miles, and:

*My Si levels remain super low

*My restriction gauge has yet to trigger anything (stock new filter pulled halfway when new)

*Found exactly no dust residue after the filter when disassembled

I feel confident I'll make 80k miles without needing a cleaning, and quite possibly a full 100k.

This filter is not one you need to look at funny at all.


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Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4519140
09/18/17 04:42 AM
09/18/17 04:42 AM
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One of the first things I did to my '01 Civic was install a short ram intake and an AEM Dryflow. Not for the HP gains (there were none), but because the factory airbox and intake silencer altogether are bigger than the engine. Almost any work you do to the car, you have to remove the stock airbox and it's a pain. It might've improved my gas mileage very slightly, but it's impossible to tell.

I've had it on there for 70,000 miles and I haven't lost any sleep over it. I have never gotten an oil analysis (shame on me). I'll clean it when it looks dirty, but the longer I leave it on, the more efficient it gets.


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Re: AEM [Re: OneEyeJack] #4519184
09/18/17 06:34 AM
09/18/17 06:34 AM
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Indianapolis, IN
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Besides giving up the quality of filtering and exposing your fuel injection system to potential problems what are you expecting?


AEM is one of the best, perhaps the best, aftermarket filter that outperforms the filtering ability of many OEM paper filters. This is not a K&N filter that sacrifices filtering for airflow.


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2017 Miata RF - PP 0w20 w/ M1 Filter
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Re: AEM [Re: pbm] #4519219
09/18/17 07:25 AM
09/18/17 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: pbm

I plan on washing the AEM approx. every 15 or 20K.


You do realize that a slightly loaded filter is actually going to catch more dirt and dust than a clean one, correct? Also, unless 15 or 20k is the recommended cleaning frequency, you're just going to be shortening the life of your filter with no advantage to your engine. AEM have extensively tested their media, follow their lead IMHO.

Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4519274
09/18/17 08:54 AM
09/18/17 08:54 AM
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Tug Hill, NY
Corelokt Offline OP
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I'm doing it because I have no factory filter. I went from non turbo, to a turbo and have been running a cheap cone filter. Now that it is all figured out, I can buy better.


86 CUCV. 6.5L. Level-3 4L80. NP205. 9-16 14 ply tires, HX35/40 turbo. WMI. 5" exh. ARP studs heads & crank. Cooling upgrades. Rattle can camo.
Re: AEM [Re: pbm] #4519866
09/18/17 10:10 PM
09/18/17 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: pbm

I plan on washing the AEM approx. every 15 or 20K.

You need to get one of these and know when to clean your filter
https://www.amazon.com/WIX-Filters-24801...s=filter+minder
Clean the filter when the filter gets 11" to 15" of restriction. You might be surprised at how many miles you can go before you have to clean it.

ROD


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Re: AEM [Re: rrounds] #4522965
09/22/17 07:42 AM
09/22/17 07:42 AM
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New York
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Originally Posted By: rrounds
Originally Posted By: pbm

I plan on washing the AEM approx. every 15 or 20K.

You need to get one of these and know when to clean your filter
https://www.amazon.com/WIX-Filters-24801...s=filter+minder
Clean the filter when the filter gets 11" to 15" of restriction. You might be surprised at how many miles you can go before you have to clean it.

ROD


Thanks, I just ordered one and will follow it's recommendations.
In the past I usually changed my A/F approx. every 30K but in all honesty I'm much less anal about it than my oil and oil filter, ATF fluid etc...I've never had a bad UOA (of the few that I've done) so I must be doing something right.
I will definitely heed the advice of you guys who are more knowledgeable about this subject...THANKS.

PS: I usually leave my air filter alone (don't check it too often) because I'm concerned about the compartment not sealing well after checking it...my theory is to not disturb it often and just change it every 30K or so....


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Re: AEM [Re: Corelokt] #4522993
09/22/17 08:09 AM
09/22/17 08:09 AM
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Tug Hill, NY
Corelokt Offline OP
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Tug Hill, NY
The AEM came. Nice solid filter. Surprised the diameter is smaller than my cheap one was.


86 CUCV. 6.5L. Level-3 4L80. NP205. 9-16 14 ply tires, HX35/40 turbo. WMI. 5" exh. ARP studs heads & crank. Cooling upgrades. Rattle can camo.
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