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Diabetes update #4518384
09/17/17 07:08 AM
09/17/17 07:08 AM
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Missouri
chiefsfan1 Offline OP
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After learning back in May my A1C was 13.9 I had to do a life change. I eliminated soda and junk food.
I started walking and am up to 3-4 miles a day.
The doc put me on Metformin, 1000mg a day.

Last week after a follow up my A1C was 6.0 and weight was down to 208 from 232! I'm 6'3".

He was surprised! Metformin was reduced to 500mg, I was hoping to get off it.

I feel a heck of a lot better and had to buy new clothes.

I have been looking for a good multi vitamin. There is so much on the market its hard to make a selection.
I do take this supplement.
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/mm-cinnamon-cinsulin-170ct/prod17960395.ip?xid=plp:product:1:4


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518391
09/17/17 07:17 AM
09/17/17 07:17 AM
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Upstate NY
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I would ask you doctor. My doctor is not fond of multivitamins. From blood test results I am only on B12 and D.

He suggested iron if I give blood several times a year.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: Donald] #4518406
09/17/17 07:39 AM
09/17/17 07:39 AM
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Missouri
chiefsfan1 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Donald
I would ask you doctor. My doctor is not fond of multivitamins. From blood test results I am only on B12 and D.

He suggested iron if I give blood several times a year.


I have not asked. This is my primary doc, I have not gone to a endo yet. I should probably go to one to get a new set of eyes on this.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518415
09/17/17 07:45 AM
09/17/17 07:45 AM
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Ceciltucky Maryland
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I take Life Extension two per day vitamins. This is very subjective, but, I seem to have more energy on these vitamins. Congrats on the A1C and weight loss :-)

Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518425
09/17/17 08:08 AM
09/17/17 08:08 AM
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The Midwest
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My wife is a type 1 diabetic. She is 5'8.5" and 121 and people can't believe she has diabetes, but they don't understand the difference between ytpe 1 and type 2. There are some people that being overweight by only 20 pounds will make them a type 2 diabetic and some thin people have type 2 diabetes but it's rare. My wife's doctor told her to take selinium everyday and a baby aspirin in addition to injecting insulin.

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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518446
09/17/17 08:37 AM
09/17/17 08:37 AM
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I've been a type 2 diabetic since 2012. I purchase Jarrow vitamins since they have a good quality control and testing. I take one B Right capsule and one lutein softgel 20mg. Lutein is good for the eyes and that is a concern with diabetes. I also take two fish oil gels a day as well.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518450
09/17/17 08:46 AM
09/17/17 08:46 AM
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Michigan
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Cinnamon - good to know, thanks,

I found this pack,
https://www.costco.com/Nature-Made-Diabetes-Health-Pack%2C-60-Packets.product.11661873.html

I think the key component is magnesium and alpha liponic acid


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518461
09/17/17 09:11 AM
09/17/17 09:11 AM
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Marshfield , MA
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I use a cello pack of daily vits from Nature's Code. Plus 300 mgs of fish oil After a few weeks, my joint pain is greatly reduced.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: PimTac] #4518486
09/17/17 10:00 AM
09/17/17 10:00 AM
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Elizabethtown, Pa
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I purchase Jarrow vitamins since they have a good quality control and testing. .


But they are not USP certified. How do you know they have good testing? They told you? Less than 1% of vitamins are certivied by reputable testing agencies. I only ever buy Nature Made..The wife buys stuff I don't approve of but..she is her own wonan.

[img]http://www.quality-supplements.org/sites...g?itok=FmCs5dxS[/img]

Sounds like you are doing well though. Probably should not change what you are doing.

Last edited by Al; 09/17/17 10:10 AM.

Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518489
09/17/17 10:03 AM
09/17/17 10:03 AM
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Posts: 3,937
Connecticut
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Connecticut
Good job on dropping the weight and junk foods. Fighting diabetes is not much different than the steps to fight heart disease, cancer, alzheimers, etc. Walking is great. I'd try to add in at least 2 aerobic exercise sessions per week. Walking hills would do it. I bike 10 miles 2-3X per week because I can't run anymore and long walks stiffen up my back. Some people might swim. The cardio will improve weight loss, fat reduction, raise HDL, lower LDL, etc.

I've used the NOW brand multi-s for nearly 10 years. Currently I take are NOW Adam softgels (180 capsules for $39). I take one a day for a maintenance dose of all major vits and minerals. This is high in B vitamins as well as some "men's health" supplements. It's iron free. Iron is a free radical. And chances are you get plenty of iron from eating meat. Most men don't need supplemental iron as it tends to build up over time. Giving blood is one of the ways to get rid of it. Having been stationed in the UK during the 1980's I'm not allowed to give blood under current Red Cross guidelines.

Your multi-vit should have D3/cholicalciferol. If you have the D2/Ergo type, it's not as potent. You'll find the D2 in cheaper supplements. Any supplement you take should ideally be certified by a respected lab to ensure what the bottle claims, is what you get. The best way to get vitamin D3 is from sun's UVB rays for 15-45 min per day...during peak hours. It's far more efficient than supplements or via food sources. Since Vit D3 has been shown to play beneficial roles in combating auto-immune diseases (such as diabetes) I consider it a must. In Missouri you can't get adequate D3 from the sun from late Sept to early March.

Besides getting rid of sugar and junk foods, I'd limit pasta and breads the best you can as they are processed foods with low nutrition. Try quinoa, veggies, etc. Even regular orange juice is high glycemic. Better to eat the actual fruit instead. I pretty much cut out pasta, bread, fried stuff, sugary stuff, and boxed cereals. These days my breakfast are cooked steel cut groats (the unprocessed form of oats/oat meal), flax meal, cinnamon added along with 100% cacoa powder. Rather than fish oil (which can oxidize easily), I try to get non-farmed Salmon 2X per week.



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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518508
09/17/17 10:27 AM
09/17/17 10:27 AM
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,937
Connecticut
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I did some research on cinnamon 5 years ago when a relative recommended Ceylon Cinnamon as very potent. Rather than the more common Cassia type you find in the super marts. I found no difference in how I felt or in my blood work. So I buy the cheap stuff and use it liberally. Some other foods beneficial to diabetes/insulin control:

A lack of D3, chromium, B vits, Vit C, Vit E, CoQ10, Magnesium, zinc, vanadium are some things known/thought to help combat diabetes. A good multi-vit should actually be helpful. Eat more beans, nuts, seeds, veggies, whole grains (not processed pasta), oats, ground flax seeds, garlic and onions, supergreens. The majority of Americans are D3 deficient, even when eating fish, milk, etc. You really need to get it from the sun or supplement daily at the 4K-8K IU level. I'd have your blood tested for D3 your next physical, just to know you are in the "good" range of 40-80 ng/ml. The USDA min of 20 ng/ml is pretty much to prevent rickets, not optimize health or prevent disease.

Avoid cow's milk. More Omega 3 fats and less Omega 6. The ALA and Chromium in your Cinnamon supplement are also known to be beneficial...so is the gymnema left and fenugreek seed.

Head to nutritionfacts.org for much more research and factual data on diabetes. Very worthwhile.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518522
09/17/17 10:49 AM
09/17/17 10:49 AM
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Texas
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Texas
Congrats !

Best wishes , :-)


Wyr
God bless
Re: Diabetes update [Re: 69GTX] #4518553
09/17/17 11:27 AM
09/17/17 11:27 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,152
Missouri
chiefsfan1 Offline OP
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Missouri
Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Good job on dropping the weight and junk foods. Fighting diabetes is not much different than the steps to fight heart disease, cancer, alzheimers, etc. Walking is great. I'd try to add in at least 2 aerobic exercise sessions per week. Walking hills would do it. I bike 10 miles 2-3X per week because I can't run anymore and long walks stiffen up my back. Some people might swim. The cardio will improve weight loss, fat reduction, raise HDL, lower LDL, etc.

I've used the NOW brand multi-s for nearly 10 years. Currently I take are NOW Adam softgels (180 capsules for $39). I take one a day for a maintenance dose of all major vits and minerals. This is high in B vitamins as well as some "men's health" supplements. It's iron free. Iron is a free radical. And chances are you get plenty of iron from eating meat. Most men don't need supplemental iron as it tends to build up over time. Giving blood is one of the ways to get rid of it. Having been stationed in the UK during the 1980's I'm not allowed to give blood under current Red Cross guidelines.

Your multi-vit should have D3/cholicalciferol. If you have the D2/Ergo type, it's not as potent. You'll find the D2 in cheaper supplements. Any supplement you take should ideally be certified by a respected lab to ensure what the bottle claims, is what you get. The best way to get vitamin D3 is from sun's UVB rays for 15-45 min per day...during peak hours. It's far more efficient than supplements or via food sources. Since Vit D3 has been shown to play beneficial roles in combating auto-immune diseases (such as diabetes) I consider it a must. In Missouri you can't get adequate D3 from the sun from late Sept to early March.

Besides getting rid of sugar and junk foods, I'd limit pasta and breads the best you can as they are processed foods with low nutrition. Try quinoa, veggies, etc. Even regular orange juice is high glycemic. Better to eat the actual fruit instead. I pretty much cut out pasta, bread, fried stuff, sugary stuff, and boxed cereals. These days my breakfast are cooked steel cut groats (the unprocessed form of oats/oat meal), flax meal, cinnamon added along with 100% cacoa powder. Rather than fish oil (which can oxidize easily), I try to get non-farmed Salmon 2X per week.



Great tips! Yes, I have dumped pasta and breads. If I do bread it's Wonder 100% Whole Wheat Bread. My sandwiches are now wraps.
I weaned myself off OJ and now eat a lot of fruits and veggies.

I'll look into the NOW Adam.

It has become a numbers game.


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Re: Diabetes update [Re: 69GTX] #4518570
09/17/17 11:44 AM
09/17/17 11:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,152
Missouri
chiefsfan1 Offline OP
chiefsfan1  Offline OP
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Missouri
Originally Posted By: 69GTX
I did some research on cinnamon 5 years ago when a relative recommended Ceylon Cinnamon as very potent. Rather than the more common Cassia type you find in the super marts. I found no difference in how I felt or in my blood work. So I buy the cheap stuff and use it liberally. Some other foods beneficial to diabetes/insulin control:

A lack of D3, chromium, B vits, Vit C, Vit E, CoQ10, Magnesium, zinc, vanadium are some things known/thought to help combat diabetes. A good multi-vit should actually be helpful. Eat more beans, nuts, seeds, veggies, whole grains (not processed pasta), oats, ground flax seeds, garlic and onions, supergreens. The majority of Americans are D3 deficient, even when eating fish, milk, etc. You really need to get it from the sun or supplement daily at the 4K-8K IU level. I'd have your blood tested for D3 your next physical, just to know you are in the "good" range of 40-80 ng/ml. The USDA min of 20 ng/ml is pretty much to prevent rickets, not optimize health or prevent disease.

Avoid cow's milk. More Omega 3 fats and less Omega 6. The ALA and Chromium in your Cinnamon supplement are also known to be beneficial...so is the gymnema left and fenugreek seed.

Head to nutritionfacts.org for much more research and factual data on diabetes. Very worthwhile.


I agree with this. I eat a LOT of nuts now instead on M+M's. Pay attention to fiber as well.
Sourdough bread seems not to spike my sugar levels.
I have been trying things I thought I would never eat, LOL
Some times as a snack I drink a Glucerna. They are decent frozen.
I have not run across nutritionfacts.org in my reading. Thanks! I'll look into it.

I'll ask at my next physical.


Last edited by chiefsfan1; 09/17/17 11:49 AM.

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Re: Diabetes update [Re: chiefsfan1] #4518575
09/17/17 11:52 AM
09/17/17 11:52 AM
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Missouri
chiefsfan1 Offline OP
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Oh, BTW I have Type 2 and use no insulin.


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