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How should I choose portable generator? #4516694
09/15/17 12:57 AM
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linjiawen Offline OP
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I want to go camping,so I need to buy a portable generator.
And If suddenly no electricity, I can also use it.

What brand of recommendation

Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516697
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For camping....I would choose inverter generator over regular with AVR function...

Inverters are pricier but not so noisy because they dont have to run WOT all the time (depends on your energy consumption)


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516700
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Honda.

Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516706
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Conventional = they run at fixed engine speed (for small power, <3kw output, 2500 or 3000rpm. They adapt throttle opening with a centrifugal device like a grass mower. They are cheap, rather noisy, big, but reliable. Their electrical output is dirty especially at low load.

Inverter = they adapt their engine speed based on inverter demand, and there's a battery to compensate waiting for engine revving up. Output is at least a triangle shaped sinusoid for the cheapest inverters, and a true sinusoid for the expensive ones. They're rather silent, fuel efficient, lighter, smaller.

I wouldn't go camping with a conventional one if there's any kind od neighborhood near.


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516707
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(Although I have a conventional one that I use when the grid is off for more than one hour, sometimes last 8 hours,, I have some neighbors complaining about noise)


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: Kamele0N] #4516746
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Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
For camping....I would choose inverter generator over regular with AVR function...

Inverters are pricier but not so noisy because they dont have to run WOT all the time (depends on your energy consumption)

This^., I bought mine for camping just to return it month later. Never actually used it, except testing it at home. NOISY as [censored] , no way I would camp with that.


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516747
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Decide how much stuff you want to run at the same time.
Decide on how much you are willing to spend.

Then shop around. A 3000W can be had for $300

Inverter generators have a number of benefits, but come with a big price tag


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516773
09/15/17 05:41 AM
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I don't know if California has pawn shops but awesome deals can be found on them there.
Depends on what all you want to run on it for the size.
The noise doesn't really bother me camping because it's a monotone. I used to worry about the noise but there are tips to make them quieter.
Not really as bad as many make it sound. If you start it and stand there and look at it, I guess you would say Geez, that's loud but 20' away with the exhaust pointed away, not so much.



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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516786
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Here's one good How to Buy a Generator article on the subject.

Consumer Reports published Best Generator Buying Guide as well.

You will definitely want an inverter type for camping, unless you want to meet your neighbors as a mob with torches and pitchforks.

Last edited by Astro_Guy; 09/15/17 06:06 AM.

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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516800
09/15/17 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: linjiawen
I want to go camping,so I need to buy a portable generator.
And If suddenly no electricity, I can also use it.

What brand of recommendation


I've been in the path of hurricanes for 30+ years. Plenty of "off grid" and camping experience.

First things first. The generator you pick depends on your planned use AND your planned back up use.

A Honda EU1000 suitcase generator will run a 5000 BTU air conditioner or will start and run a moderately sized fridge. But not both. The Honda 2000 will easily do both, or a larger AC unit.

Among the Chinese brands, Champion is considered the best. But they fall short of Honda products.

If you are going to purchase a conventional, open frame genset, consider something from Northern Tool. They use Honda engines and Mecc Alte (very high quality) generator heads.

Note: an 11HP (5500W) generator will start and run well pumps, will run a water heater etc.

Remember to consider HP (or engine CC's) , not "peak watts" when sizing a larger generator. It's HP that does the work, and engine size is the defining factor. A 330cc engine will make 11HP and make about 5500W of electrical output. A 270cc engine WILL NOT make 5500W continuous, and so cannot run most typical 4500W water heaters.


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516802
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There are many people who like the Chinese inverter generators. I've had a couple of them over the years and all of them failed. I won't do that again. Maybe they are better now? Even so, good luck getting parts.


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516871
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I think a camping generator and a home backup computer are two different sets of requirements that will result in two different generators.

When did camping involve a generator? What about a tent, sleeping bag, cooler and campfire?


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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: Donald] #4516889
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Originally Posted By: Donald
I think a camping generator and a home backup computer are two different sets of requirements that will result in two different generators.

When did camping involve a generator? What about a tent, sleeping bag, cooler and campfire?


Think the trend is called "glamping"

I bought a Firman inverter generator for summer camping with a 5th wheel. Needs to start and run a pretty large AC unit and a few other things with a cheap 12volt convertor.
Would easily run a few things in a home without issue and with its 1.8 gallon tank can last all night and is very quiet. Big plus with it is it has remote start and stop. Does not take any more gas than my Ryobi 2200 inverter genny. 3300 starting watts. 2 year warranty and have called them on a weekend and have had them call me back to help with ?s. To the door was under $900. They offer it in manual start only mode too but so nice to use remote to stop it before going to bed and start it in the AM to start the coffee.



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Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: linjiawen] #4516914
09/15/17 09:00 AM
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Don't buy any generator now. I bought an 1800 W Wen on Amazon for $180. It is now $450!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It weighs 50 pounds. It is perfect for emergency and camping. I love it.

Last edited by Al; 09/15/17 09:01 AM.

Re: How should I choose portable generator? [Re: Al] #4516925
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[quote=Al]Don't buy any generator now. I bought an 1800 W Wen on Amazon for $180. It is now $450!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irma is sucking up generators. Month or so there will be a pile for sale used and some new in the box as many bought that did not need but to have. Think as of this AM 2 million without power in Florida. Just to have a room with AC would be welcome I'm sure. Picture of friends home by Melbourne



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