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K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) #4515988
09/14/17 10:23 AM
09/14/17 10:23 AM
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1foxracing Offline OP
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If you're running one of these on your bike I would remove it immediately. It's already been banned by many track day companies and you will not be permitted on a race track with this filter installed. I remember when this happened with Fram filters many years ago when they were blowing the threads of the filter and spraying the track down with oil.
https://www.knfilters.com/recallkn204

A friend suffering the consequences

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516011
09/14/17 10:41 AM
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Just another reason to hate K&N - at work we sell both K&N and Wix filters for motorcycle applications and I've always recommended Wix. Who needs the stupid nut anyway??


2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~126K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~84K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo.
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516022
09/14/17 10:54 AM
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So this won't impact the Hiflofiltro 204 which is the same filter but without the nut.

People just need to stop putting oil filters on so tight that there needs to be a nut on the housing to remove it.

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516058
09/14/17 11:26 AM
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I'm glad the OPer's friend had plenty of room to scrub off speed after the failure before he finally went down! Could have been so much worse...

I thought the whole top nut thing was such a great idea when I was first buying oil filters, then I realized it basically did nothing for me in my application. I'll have to make sure the one K&N oil filter I have left hasn't been recalled before I give it away.


2014 Forester XT, 86000 miles
Last Change;
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Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516066
09/14/17 11:36 AM
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Nuts !
The irony is KN promotes these for racing because the nut can be safety wired to prevent spillage.


6.7 cummins, Toyota 4 runner
FUMOTO
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516110
09/14/17 12:29 PM
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K&N is putting their butts on the line for lawsuits if someone crashes as a result of a filter failure.

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516111
09/14/17 12:31 PM
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Nut weld on K&N filter blew on my Son's CR-V. Big mess but no damage.


2009 Honda CR-V
2011 BMW R1200R
2005 Kaw Ninja 250
1994 Jeep Wrangler 2.5L
2016 Chevy SS Sport Sedan
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516120
09/14/17 12:47 PM
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Please post the outcome of your friend's damage claim against K&N.

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516145
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K&N makes junk. A lot of "performance" parts are junk IMO.


2010 Silverado 4.8 4x4 Mobil 1 5W30 ACDelco PF48E
2002 Mustang GT 4.6 Mobil 1 5W30 MC FL-820S
1966 Cessna 150 Phillips 20W50
2013 Mercury 30hp Mystic 25W40
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516146
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Also add your lucky your friend didn't get hurt or worse...


2010 Silverado 4.8 4x4 Mobil 1 5W30 ACDelco PF48E
2002 Mustang GT 4.6 Mobil 1 5W30 MC FL-820S
1966 Cessna 150 Phillips 20W50
2013 Mercury 30hp Mystic 25W40
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516154
09/14/17 01:37 PM
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We've seen this before, oil leaking from the filter at the nut they weld on. People have posted pictures showing the inside of the can where the nut is, showing cracks where the metal fatigued.

As far as I'm concerned that nut is one time use only, nobody should ever use the nut to tighten it down or take it off with the nut and then put the filter back on, it should be used to remove it and dispose of it afterward.

I think the nut is a stupid idea, given how easy it is to take a filter off if it's put on properly and the complications it introduces, more failure points. If someone reefed a filter on too tight I doubt the nut would help anyone at that point anyway, would probably just shear off the dome end.


2015 Civic LX Coupe
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516193
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You can have a nut without issues it just needs to be done properly.

My airplane's oil filter has a nut and is lock wired. Im not concerned that its going to leak.


2010 Silverado 4.8 4x4 Mobil 1 5W30 ACDelco PF48E
2002 Mustang GT 4.6 Mobil 1 5W30 MC FL-820S
1966 Cessna 150 Phillips 20W50
2013 Mercury 30hp Mystic 25W40
Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: 1foxracing] #4516319
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The nut didn't have these issues when Champ made them!

The bad nuts happened once K&N started outsourcing to Mexico and Korea

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: Kool1] #4516913
09/15/17 10:00 AM
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1foxracing Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Kool1
Please post the outcome of your friend's damage claim against K&N.


They paid his claim of $1400
https://ohioriders.net/index.php?/topic/...comment-1540902

Re: K&N-204 oil filter recall (Motorcycle) [Re: FastLane] #4517008
09/15/17 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: FastLane
K&N makes junk. A lot of "performance" parts are junk IMO.


K&N doesn't "make" anything. They are a brand name that is slapped on the product & box by the lowest bidder contract manufacturer. Same with STP. FRAM, Wix, Purolator all make their own filters (at least the ones with decent volume). The cats & dog low-runner models are generally purchased from China/India/Mexico.

Last edited by DudeNiceRide; 09/15/17 11:58 AM. Reason: added info
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