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You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost #4515635
09/13/17 09:39 PM
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Here is the UOA on the 2016.
2,829 miles on the oil.
5,670 miles on the engine
The oil was M1 EP 5W-30. The quart added was M1 5W-30 HM. I guess I know where the visco drop is coming from.


Last edited by bigj_16; 09/13/17 09:45 PM.
Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515652
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Approximately 3k miles on the factory fill? The truck is on borrowed time.

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515660
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It would seem that you are going to need to keep your OCI at around 3000 miles. I see no reason at all to run a premium synthetic at that interval--any synthetic blend would do. Are you certain there is nothing wrong with the engine? The fuel dilution seems incredibly high for only 3,000 miles. I would hedge my bet by increasing the viscosity to an xW-40.


2018 MB AMG GLC43 3.0L Coupe - Castrol 0W-40/Purflux
2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515661
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My guess is when I do a UOA on the 2017 with the same miles, it will be the same dilution.

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515662
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It used a whole quart of oil in 2,829 miles?


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: aquariuscsm] #4515665
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
It used a whole quart of oil in 2,829 miles?
Yes, maybe slightly more. This was a fast road trip. I was taching 2200-2300 most of the time. That doesn't surprise me. It hasn't used oil before or after that.

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515666
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That'd scare the [censored] out of me. I wonder why it was using so much oil? Does it smoke?


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515673
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Thanks for sharing bigj_16. Interesting results.


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2012 Toyota Sienna LTD 3.5L V6
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Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515695
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At what mileage did you have to add the quart ?

I'm thinking it must've been right around 2700 miles; hopefully not sooner.

But then again, we're talking about M1 5W-30 here. The Bermuda triangle oil.

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515697
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No smoke on this run. This was M1 EP. That oil was added over the course of the trip.
The engines use a lot of boost. AT 2200-2300, its boosting pretty good. For hours on end, That's why the oil consumption doesn't really surprise me.

I keep telling you guys these TGDI engines are a whole new ball game. Trying to relate this to a port injected NA motor of the past is not going to help you.


I am really surprised someone hasn't chastised me for not following the OLM. smile

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515701
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I believe you have a problem. I have a 2015 2,7 that has not used one drop of oil in 25k miles.

Some 2016 2.7 with a certain build dates have a big problem and oil consumption is the first indicator.

http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f15...rough-idle.html

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2016-17-f...-2077-a-381323/






Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515703
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My 2016 3.5 Eco hasn't used any oil in 5500miles. That includes towing our travel trailer 1800miles in two weeks. Twin turbo direct injection. You have a problem as indicated above.


2016 F150 Eco: Edge 0w40
2005 Sienna 3.3: mobil 0w40 (varies)
Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515709
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Dont add HM M1, its got seal swelling ability and will ween from not having it. Try Castrol Magnatec or QSUD with short intervals.


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Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: Marco620] #4515714
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Originally Posted By: Marco620
Dont add HM M1, its got seal swelling ability and will ween from not having it. Try Castrol Magnatec or QSUD with short intervals.


High mileage oil will not hurt one thing. Wives tale. I run Valvoline HM 5w30 full synthetic in my 2.7 and I am very happy with it, the motor is way quieter than with pup and no more black tailpipe residue, I just picked up 2 5 gallon jugs a Walmart with the dexos1 Gen 2 logo on the label, (it was on the back of the shelf behind the old formula stuff).

Re: You're gonna love this! 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515731
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
It used a whole quart of oil in 2,829 miles?
Yes, maybe slightly more. This was a fast road trip. I was taching 2200-2300 most of the time. That doesn't surprise me. It hasn't used oil before or after that.


I had a 1.2L 3cyl at 4500-5500 rpm for several hours, not a drop. 2k rpm is nothing for anything on the roads these days.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 100K Napa 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50, NG1515
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