Recent Topics
Let's Talk Bed Pillows
by LoneRanger
06/20/18 09:21 AM
Changed Speedo Gear on 700r4 Tailshaft
by Pike51
06/20/18 09:20 AM
Which do you prefer: ZL-1 Camaro or GS Corvette ?
by Mr Nice
06/20/18 08:41 AM
CVT Discussion
by Sierra048
06/20/18 08:28 AM
Can't get Unifi AP V2 to work on TDS...
by WhizkidTN
06/20/18 07:34 AM
Need mini grease gun
by Duffyjr
06/20/18 07:02 AM
Mazda 6 O2 sensor - CA emission
by Chester11
06/20/18 06:57 AM
Brake Bleeder
by supton
06/20/18 06:56 AM
As close to blowing out as you can get
by wwillson
06/20/18 06:04 AM
changing tranny filter
by Dennisistheman
06/20/18 06:04 AM
From small things...
by Silk
06/20/18 05:57 AM
Anyone signing up for the Space Force
by Shannow
06/20/18 03:58 AM
Pennzoil Platinum at Walmart
by TheLawnRanger
06/19/18 11:21 PM
Mopar OEM and Fram Ultra Oil filters, '18 Jeep JL
by IndyFan
06/19/18 10:45 PM
What’s the odds..
by Eric Smith
06/19/18 09:51 PM
Who can relate?
by Reddy45
06/19/18 09:43 PM
No more oil changes
by goodtimes
06/19/18 09:19 PM
Separating toddlers from their parents?
by fdcg27
06/19/18 08:50 PM
gm 8.6 truetrac
by Spitter
06/19/18 08:45 PM
New addition to my garage: 2000 Corvette FRC
by MrHorspwer
06/19/18 08:34 PM
Newest Members
Theraven, battleman13, Shassis, Santo, aligoodn
65276 Registered Users
Who's Online
89 registered (alphadog, 853okg, 28oz, 9050lx, 2015_PSD, 2009Edge, 9 invisible), 1518 Guests and 29 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65276 Members
67 Forums
285641 Topics
4766903 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#4515324 - 09/13/17 03:55 PM Ford PTU gear oil life
dlundblad Online   happy


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10018
Loc: Indiana
A quick BITOG search hasn't shown much info on the Ford power transfer units (PTU) found in various AWD Ford applications. I browsed through the most recent thread (~Spring 2016) and didn't see this posted so I figured it'd be worth mentioning and discussing.

Here's an interesting link I found. Blackstone recomended 10k intervals on a PTU with the factory cooler. Explorer Forum
Keep in mind, this is on an Explorer. I am not sure if there's any differences between these and other AWD Fords. Tauruses, (as well as the SHO), Fusions, Edges etc.

Some PTU's have coolers while some do not. Also, at least on the older models for the North American market, there's plenty of how-to's on adding a drain plug because originally Ford thought it was a lifetime fluid. Simple Googling has shown many failures well under 100k. They get hot and when they're by the exhaust, I imagine they get even hotter.


Edited by dlundblad (09/13/17 04:07 PM)
Edit Reason: Removed extra )
_________________________
03 Jeep WJ 4.0 199k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 145k Rotella T5 10w30 Fram TG3980


Top
#4515341 - 09/13/17 04:19 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5236
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
From what I've seen of those without coolers, if be doing that every 5k miles.

Once out of warranty, I'd add external cooler, pump, and filter.
_________________________
07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio

Top
#4515438 - 09/13/17 06:14 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
Ammofirst Offline


Registered: 06/22/17
Posts: 353
Loc: Western usa
What fluid does it call for. Hopefully not some proprietary special sauce at $50.00 a quart

Top
#4515444 - 09/13/17 06:16 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
bdcardinal Offline


Registered: 06/03/05
Posts: 10981
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA
75w140. We have seen just as many failures with the police units that have the larger cooler as the ones that don't.
_________________________
2014 Ford Mustang GT Track Pack
1995 Ford Mustang GT

Ford/Mazda Parts Counter
NRA Benefactor Member
Opinions expressed are my own.

Top
#4515530 - 09/13/17 07:53 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: DoubleWasp]
Colt45ws Offline


Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 9638
Loc: Central Washington
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
From what I've seen of those without coolers, if be doing that every 5k miles.

Once out of warranty, I'd add external cooler, pump, and filter.

Agree. The heat is destroying the oil is such a short period of time you almost might as well do monthly or weekly changes. Its so pathetically underengineered.
I think like $500-600 could get you a professional oil circulation pump, stacked plate OTA cooler, filter and filter head, plumbing and lines. If you can keep the oil under 200F average you could probably run 30-40-50k on a change.


Edited by Colt45ws (09/13/17 07:53 PM)
_________________________
-Colton
2002 Ford Crown Vic PI 207k, Ex-Kootenai County, ID Unit #42
Down for engine swap
2003 Ford Crown Vic PI 75k
Castrol EDGE HM 5W30, Fram XG2

Top
#4516445 - 09/14/17 07:31 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
buck91 Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
Posts: 2449
Loc: West Michigan
Did a little under 12mo and around 10k miles on my wife's 2014 Explorer with Amsoil SG 75w140. Came out looking almost as bad as the OE stuff did at 70k miles.
_________________________
2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop

Top
#4516461 - 09/14/17 07:47 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: bdcardinal]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6366
Loc: Texas
What does the cooler look like? - mine has a scoop under bumper and air duct back to the region. One pipe was so close that I had a muffler shop swing it wider to both move heat source and be able to reach the drain plug. I wrapped the pipes with a really good header tape.

Will try my method of oil change in 3 weeks - going with Motorcraft ...

Top
#4516726 - 09/15/17 04:50 AM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: 4WD]
dlundblad Online   happy


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10018
Loc: Indiana
I haven't had a chance to take a closer look, but from what I've seen online, it just has 2 coolant hoses connected to it.
_________________________
03 Jeep WJ 4.0 199k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 145k Rotella T5 10w30 Fram TG3980


Top
#4517005 - 09/15/17 11:42 AM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
buck91 Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
Posts: 2449
Loc: West Michigan
Hey now this is exciting! Hooked up my obd2 Bluetooth and opened forscan lite. It is able to monitor Tue ptu temp sensor (which is called transfer case.temp).

Was 145 degrees when I just scanned on a short trip, but the car was driven a lot earlier in the day also.

I'll post back when I have better data.
_________________________
2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop

Top
#4517919 - 09/16/17 03:07 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: buck91]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6366
Loc: Texas
Did you stick with ASG? Thinking I'll go MC until warranty is out and then try Redline - anyone running that in Ford PTU's?

Top
#4517973 - 09/16/17 04:39 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
buck91 Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
Posts: 2449
Loc: West Michigan
8 miles from "cold" start with 85f ambient temperature. Ptu is 157f.




Edited by buck91 (09/16/17 04:40 PM)
_________________________
2011 F150 4x4 5.0L
1996 Mustang GT 5spd/ragtop

Top
#4518494 - 09/17/17 11:10 AM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 19042
Loc: Iowegia - USA

Top
#4518542 - 09/17/17 12:12 PM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: dlundblad]
Whimsey Offline


Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 4047
Loc: The Garden State
Does the AWD beat up the PTU fluid worse than the 4WD does in a 2017 2.3 EcoBoost Explorer? If I'm not mistaken if the 4WD is not engaged then the Explorer is in front wheel drive mode. Is it using the PTU while in FWD? With the 2.3 EcoBoost in this Explorer it looks like there is plenty of air space between components underneath. I don't have an under body "shield" which makes doing any maintenance underneath easy. I had the dealer change the PTU fluid at 9,000 miles and will do again around 18,000 miles. It looks like it's a beotch to do yourself. At that point I'll have the dealer change the rear diff also, it also looks like a real pain to change compared to the rear diffs that I'm familiar with. Sad to say I'm not getting any younger and my body fights me everyday. Though changing the oil& filter and ATF is a piece of cake on this vehicle grin.

Whimsey

Top
#4519114 - 09/18/17 04:20 AM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: buck91]
dlundblad Online   happy


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 10018
Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: buck91
8 miles from "cold" start with 85f ambient temperature. Ptu is 157f.




Was it actually holding at this temperature? 157*F doesn't seem too bad.
_________________________
03 Jeep WJ 4.0 199k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 145k Rotella T5 10w30 Fram TG3980


Top
#4519119 - 09/18/17 04:41 AM Re: Ford PTU gear oil life [Re: MolaKule]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6366
Loc: Texas
Even lower with Motorcraft FF - 262F (0.7)

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >