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2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost #4515120
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This is the UOA from my wife's 2017 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost. This was a dealer oil change done theoretically with Motorcraft 5W-30. 1,331 miles on oil. 3,281 miles on vehicle.

Please ignore the Unit/Location averages in the first section. These are not correct.

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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515130
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Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515131
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Why not?

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515137
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I am in the camp that subscribes to early OCs to dump wear metals from break-in so no complaints from me on that. What is up with the viscosity? Are you sure it was 5W-30?


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: 2015_PSD] #4515142
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
I am in the camp that subscribes to early OCs to dump wear metals from break-in so no complaints from me on that. What is up with the viscosity? Are you sure it was 5W-30?

That is the question, friendo. I don't know. The samples from both our trucks showed viscosity about the same (out of grade). So, I don't know if they put 5W-20 in, or it was 5W-30 sheared down. I will be getting results back from the 2016 today for an oil change with about 2800 miles on it. This is M1 EP 5W-30 that I put in myself smile

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515145
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Here's the 2016 at roughly about the same miles.
This a dealer change, theoretically Motorcraft 5W-30.

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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4515160
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.

The filters catches anything "left over" from the assembly.

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: CKN] #4515173
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.

And how do you know that?

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: CKN] #4515176
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.

The filters catches anything "left over" from the assembly.


If that's really 5w-30 there's a ton of fuel dilution in the sump. And if that's the case anything resembling an extended drain interval isn't exactly "flushing money"...

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: Danh] #4515192
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Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.

The filters catches anything "left over" from the assembly.


If that's really 5w-30 there's a ton of fuel dilution in the sump. And if that's the case anything resembling an extended drain interval isn't exactly "flushing money"...

Even if it is 5W-20, over at PQIA, the visco of the virgin is 8.54, which means it is shearing/diluting pretty fast. This upcoming M1 EP sample is going to be the one I am really interested in. Unfortunately, it is 2800 miles of highway roadtrip (80-85 mph), mostly, rather than the combination of city/highway in these UOA's. Still, it should give an indicator of shear/dilution.

Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: CKN] #4515201
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.



That is most certainly not true. We've found that our Ford vehicles last longer with more frequent OCI's and in particular, higher viscosity. With modular engines lasting over 900K miles using 10W-40 and 5K oci's.


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515203
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That is a 5W-20 oil. Castrol and Valvoline syn oils gives better results on these engines.


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: Cujet] #4515207
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Why have you done 2 oil changes with 3200 miles on the truck?



This is BITOG....money is flushed on here needlessly-that's why. That truck won't last longer than an owner following the factory recommended OCI.



That is most certainly not true. We've found that our Ford vehicles last longer with more frequent OCI's and in particular, higher viscosity. With modular engines lasting over 900K miles using 10W-40 and 5K oci's.
I would tend to agree.


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: bigj_16] #4515208
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Even if it is 5W-20, over at PQIA, the visco of the virgin is 8.54, which means it is shearing/diluting pretty fast. This upcoming M1 EP sample is going to be the one I am really interested in. Unfortunately, it is 2800 miles of highway roadtrip (80-85 mph), mostly, rather than the combination of city/highway in these UOA's. Still, it should give an indicator of shear/dilution.
You may want to try another lab if you suspect fuel dilution. Unless something has changed at Blackstone, they cannot accurately measure fuel levels.


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Re: 2017 Ford F-150 2.7 Ecoboost [Re: 2015_PSD] #4515213
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Even if it is 5W-20, over at PQIA, the visco of the virgin is 8.54, which means it is shearing/diluting pretty fast. This upcoming M1 EP sample is going to be the one I am really interested in. Unfortunately, it is 2800 miles of highway roadtrip (80-85 mph), mostly, rather than the combination of city/highway in these UOA's. Still, it should give an indicator of shear/dilution.
You may want to try another lab if you suspect fuel dilution. Unless something has changed at Blackstone, they cannot accurately measure fuel levels.
Not discounting what you say(thanks!). However, it really doesn't matter if it is dilution or shearing. Either is typical of these engines, and in the end is essentially the same thing. A lowering of viscosity. You could make a point about gasoline being a poor lubricant smile

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