Recent Topics
1 filter, 1 OCI vs 1 filter, 2 OCU
by RyanY. 12/09/18 05:41 PM
K&N PS-7022 Cartridge 4,554 Miles
by 69Torino. 12/09/18 05:41 PM
Uh oh
by double vanos. 12/09/18 05:19 PM
Calls for 5w30, will 10w30 work?
by zstand. 12/09/18 05:14 PM
AIDS: Not talked about so much anymore
by 53' Stude. 12/09/18 03:57 PM
Collinite #476S or Finish Kare BWM 101 ?
by ChrisD46. 12/09/18 03:40 PM
185/65 15 or 195/65 15
by cjcride. 12/09/18 03:14 PM
Does coolant flow through the heater core all the time?
by motor_oil_madman. 12/09/18 03:11 PM
Testing battery at home
by mb32. 12/09/18 03:05 PM
Someone flame this guy
by SilverFusion2010. 12/09/18 02:51 PM
Leaving cars sit for 1 month
by Rohan. 12/09/18 02:38 PM
Alfa Stelvio first thoughts +pics
by DriveHard. 12/09/18 02:13 PM
'12-'13 Suzuki Kizashi?
by pandus13. 12/09/18 02:06 PM
2020 RAM HD Pickups
by 02SE. 12/09/18 12:55 PM
Gates 362380 Power Steering Hose (new)
by DGXR. 12/09/18 12:35 PM
Washable cabin/ polin filter
by Goldeneye. 12/09/18 12:11 PM
Power Stop brakes on 2012 Sienna?
by LeakySeals. 12/09/18 11:58 AM
4K System Requirements (video card/monitor)
by 92saturnsl2. 12/09/18 11:55 AM
Newest Members
jch1270, Canucks, wadekaminski, W4QA, bornfree085
66633 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
92 registered members (bcossa2001, 69Torino, A310, 2003f7, 53' Stude, 13 invisible), 1,871 guests, and 35 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics294,831
Posts4,922,809
Members66,633
Most Online2,553
Oct 27th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? #4514990
09/13/17 09:16 AM
09/13/17 09:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 145
California
boom10ful Offline OP
boom10ful  Offline OP
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 145
California
I just tested the factory coolant just for fun with a Prestone tester. Instead of getting 50/50 the needle pegged all the way to the top. From what I know this stuff is just regular antifreeze, not anything special. Would this affect anything and is this something that I would take up with the dealer?

Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4514995
09/13/17 09:23 AM
09/13/17 09:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,139
USA
ArcticDriver Offline
ArcticDriver  Offline
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,139
USA
A fsctory fill would not be 100% coolant, it would be diluted.

I would discuss with your dealer.


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4514999
09/13/17 09:29 AM
09/13/17 09:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
northern Alabama
benjamming Offline
benjamming  Offline
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
northern Alabama
Are you using a tester or ethylene glycol or propylene glycol?

Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515001
09/13/17 09:31 AM
09/13/17 09:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
kschachn Offline
kschachn  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
Those little testers peg out at about 60% concentration don't they? That wouldn't be unusually high.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: ArcticDriver] #4515002
09/13/17 09:31 AM
09/13/17 09:31 AM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,094
Colorado
Kuato Offline
Kuato  Offline
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,094
Colorado
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
A factory fill MIGHT not be 100% coolant, it SHOULD be diluted.

I would discuss with your dealer.


Fixed it for you....some weird stuff from the factory I wouldn't be surprised.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515007
09/13/17 09:39 AM
09/13/17 09:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 145
California
boom10ful Offline OP
boom10ful  Offline OP
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 145
California
I agree that these testers aren't very accurate, but from the factory it should be 50/50 no? Its an ethylene glycol tester; the ones that have a big needle inside. I've tested it on a premixed 50/50 and its right at the 50% mark. I've also tested it on pure coolant and the needle floats right up.

Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: benjamming] #4515009
09/13/17 09:41 AM
09/13/17 09:41 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,481
Ontario, Canada
mightymousetech Offline
mightymousetech  Offline
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,481
Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: benjamming
Are you using a tester or ethylene glycol or propylene glycol?


This. There are two types of coolant.


Mighty Mouse Tech
BMW Tech, Former Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515010
09/13/17 09:42 AM
09/13/17 09:42 AM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,629
The Old North State
Sayjac Offline
Sayjac  Offline
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,629
The Old North State
Before having a dealer chat, check it against at least one other AF tester. I've used the inexpensive Chaslyn 5 ball AF tester and found it pretty accurate comparing to new Honda Type2 premix.

Doubtful it's more than a 50% AF concentration.

Last edited by Sayjac; 09/13/17 09:49 AM.
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515011
09/13/17 09:43 AM
09/13/17 09:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,231
Where the wind comes sweepin'
Reddy45 Offline
Reddy45  Offline
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,231
Where the wind comes sweepin'
Originally Posted By: boom10ful
I just tested the factory coolant just for fun with a Prestone tester. Instead of getting 50/50 the needle pegged all the way to the top. From what I know this stuff is just regular antifreeze, not anything special. Would this affect anything and is this something that I would take up with the dealer?


Is it the green stuff? I ask because I did a coolant change on a friend's Kia recently and the OEM stuff was the darkest green I have ever seen. It almost looked like it was NOT diluted.

Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515013
09/13/17 09:45 AM
09/13/17 09:45 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 17,804
Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Chris142 Offline
Chris142  Offline
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 17,804
Deplorable in apple valley, ca
The long life coolants show very high on my testers even when properly mixed.


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: mightymousetech] #4515014
09/13/17 09:46 AM
09/13/17 09:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
kschachn Offline
kschachn  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: benjamming
Are you using a tester or ethylene glycol or propylene glycol?

This. There are two types of coolant.

Sure. But are you saying the OEM KIA fluid is propylene glycol based? The MSDS says ethylene glycol.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515020
09/13/17 09:49 AM
09/13/17 09:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
kschachn Offline
kschachn  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,268
Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: boom10ful
I agree that these testers aren't very accurate, but from the factory it should be 50/50 no? Its an ethylene glycol tester; the ones that have a big needle inside. I've tested it on a premixed 50/50 and its right at the 50% mark. I've also tested it on pure coolant and the needle floats right up.

I don't know what the factory puts in for concentration, on my Toyota vehicles they recommend a 60% mixture and allow up to 70%. It's not a matter of accuracy (the tester should be fairly accurate) it is a matter of the upper range.

You could try mixing water with some of the coolant and see what that does to the measured concentration.


1994 BMW 530i, 238K
1996 Honda Accord, 266K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 407K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: Kuato] #4515045
09/13/17 10:12 AM
09/13/17 10:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,139
USA
ArcticDriver Offline
ArcticDriver  Offline
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,139
USA
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
A factory fill MIGHT not be 100% coolant, it SHOULD be diluted.

I would discuss with your dealer.


Fixed it for you....some weird stuff from the factory I wouldn't be surprised.


Thanks KUATO thumbsup

Could you describe further? I didn't realize there were any applications where 100% coolant would be advantagous.

Thanks for insight.


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515053
09/13/17 10:17 AM
09/13/17 10:17 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,283
N.H, U.S.A.
ARCOgraphite Offline
ARCOgraphite  Offline
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,283
N.H, U.S.A.
Yes 100% of a 40% HOH diluent

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 09/13/17 10:20 AM.

2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Did KIA use 100% antifreeze from the factory? [Re: boom10ful] #4515072
09/13/17 10:35 AM
09/13/17 10:35 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,949
Illinois
SHOZ Offline
SHOZ  Offline
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,949
Illinois
Originally Posted By: boom10ful
I agree that these testers aren't very accurate, but from the factory it should be 50/50 no? Its an ethylene glycol tester; the ones that have a big needle inside. I've tested it on a premixed 50/50 and its right at the 50% mark. I've also tested it on pure coolant and the needle floats right up.
I would think factory fill would be closer to 60/40. 50/50 isn't good enough for the extreme cold of say Canada.


2008 Hyundai Accent 1.6L 5 sp manual hatchback
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Track 2L Turbo 6sp manual
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™