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#4514616 - 09/12/17 09:02 PM Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline?
Krieg Offline


Registered: 07/23/17
Posts: 43
Loc: USA
Hello fellow BITOG,

Have a 1994 Montero 3.5 DOHC, 126,000 miles. It drips a bit from the rear main seal, I'm the original owner. Montero is garage kept. Trying to decide between Valvoline HM Full synthetic vs Pennzoil full synthetic HM. She is on the severe maintenance program. Live in the desert southwest and 4x4 in mountains and sand. Half city/half highway and maybe 5% in true 4x4 mode. Using PUP 5W30 right now with Fram Ultra. Have a snorkel for air filter and use OEM filters.

Unable to find VOA on Pennzoil HM. I recall Rat 540 testing the Valvoline, which was in the top five I believe. Penn HM wasn't tested. I've only had one UOA which had FE at 33 at 5,700 miles. BlkStn recommended 5,000 miles. Doing another UOA in near future.

Going to take this Montero to the grave, not literally. <lol> Appreciate your thoughts and suggestions!

Respectfully,

Pajero
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#4514618 - 09/12/17 09:04 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1291
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
I would use that Valvoline 10W-30 Synthetic HM. That has some stout specs.

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#4514647 - 09/12/17 09:36 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
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Registered: 03/04/17
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Loc: Soviet State of Washington
I would lean towards the Valvoline as well. They are the de facto leaders in the HM oil sector. That Valvoline FS with MLT is perhaps their best oil.

That was a great year for the Montero. Very comfortable and a good highway cruiser not to mention the 4WD system. If taken care of, that vehicle will run a very long time.
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#4514651 - 09/12/17 09:41 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
ejes Offline


Registered: 01/11/16
Posts: 321
Loc: Kansas
I've had better luck with Valvoline HM syn than the Pennzoil HM syn as far as helping minor seeping, but either will serve you very well and both may, or may not, help with the drip. You just have to run them and find out for that. Given my experience with it, if it were my vehicle, I'd start with the Valvoline first.

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#4514660 - 09/12/17 09:51 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
Charlie2015 Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 263
Loc: Georgia
10w30 Valvoline Full Synthetic with Maxlife Technology.
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#4514674 - 09/12/17 10:19 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Charlie2015]
lukejo Offline


Registered: 09/21/11
Posts: 404
Loc: IL
I've experience less oil usage and quieter engines using the Valvoline Full Syn w ML vs the PPHM on older, high mileage vehicles. (Both in 5w-30)

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#4514694 - 09/12/17 10:41 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
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Registered: 04/15/17
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Valvoline for sure.
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#4514707 - 09/12/17 11:14 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18314
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Pennzoil is a superior oil. Look up and compare the specs of both. Better add pack,higher tbn,etc.
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#4514708 - 09/12/17 11:18 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: aquariuscsm]
Krieg Offline


Registered: 07/23/17
Posts: 43
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil is a superior oil. Look up and compare the specs of both. Better add pack,higher tbn,etc.


I haven't been able to find a VOA on either. Checked PQIA (even emailed them, no response). Both are new arrivals to the market within last two years. If you can show me the specs, that would be fantastic.

Respectfully,
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#4514710 - 09/12/17 11:20 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
Oro_O Offline


Registered: 09/20/14
Posts: 1354
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
10w30 M1 HM. I get less oil usage with that and drips. I have run Valvoline HM FS and the PP. I went back the the M1 HM 10w30. It is more robust than either of the other two. Cheap, also, on rebate now.

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#4514714 - 09/12/17 11:30 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
mooferz Offline


Registered: 01/30/16
Posts: 325
Loc: TX
I'd throw in a bottle of ATP-205 Re-seal with whatever oil.
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#4514717 - 09/12/17 11:34 PM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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I would stick to the regular Maxlife blend. I also agree about adding atp 205. It helped a bit with my Nissan in sig
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#4514737 - 09/13/17 12:16 AM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
ShotGun429 Offline


Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 426
Loc: Dayton,Ohio
As a Engine shop here, Valvoline in my opinion.

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#4514791 - 09/13/17 05:25 AM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
Slick17601 Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 1520
Loc: Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: Krieg
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Pennzoil is a superior oil. Look up and compare the specs of both. Better add pack,higher tbn,etc.


I haven't been able to find a VOA on either. Checked PQIA (even emailed them, no response). Both are new arrivals to the market within last two years. If you can show me the specs, that would be fantastic.

Respectfully,



It's on the PQIA site.

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#4514793 - 09/13/17 05:30 AM Re: Help me decide Synthetic HM Penn vs Valvoline? [Re: Krieg]
Ammofirst Offline


Registered: 06/22/17
Posts: 353
Loc: Western usa
I'm going to have to jump in with the mobile one 10W-30 high mileage recommendation. Honestly all three would serve you well but the mobile will give you a nice bump up to a 3.5 HTHS number in that desert heat

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