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'04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? #4511774
09/09/17 06:27 PM
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Any mini people out here? We are the second owner of an '04 Cooper S JCW. The original owner said it has always used 5w40 Synthetic , but I see that both 5w30 and 5w40 are recommend for this. A quick internet search showed a couple of Mini parts sellers highly recommending 5w30 oil. What is actually ideal for this car? Should I be using a 5w40 or 5w30? To complicate things even more, Castrol (the intercooler cover says "Mini Recommends Castrol Oil) oil selector recommends 0w30. So now I'm even more confused...

Last edited by Johnny248; 09/09/17 06:34 PM.

'11 Ram 1500 5.7L
'08 Beetle 2.5L
'04 Mini Cooper S JCW 1.6L

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511782
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Viscosity is less important than oil that meets the BMW LL-01 spec. Mobil 1 0w40 and German Castrol 5w30 have been popular choices. I've used those and Motul in my two R52's over the years as well as MINI oil. ECS tuning and Pelican Parts has a lot of options on their websites to peruse.

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511788
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^ LL01 is really the only relevant spec. Right now the cheap + easy oil is Castrol 0W-40.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511804
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Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 09/09/17 06:57 PM.

2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4511830
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson

That is NOT the oil he needs for his car.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511868
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It's the euro spec Castrol - nicknamed German Castrol - that is the one you'd want for the MINI.

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511911
09/09/17 09:12 PM
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LL01. Looks like they have that Castrol at Walmart. That will work. I like something with easy access. I could have sworn he said he ised Castrol 5w40 but maybe that doesn't even exist? I'm fine with the Castrol, as long as that 40w is the right option.


'11 Ram 1500 5.7L
'08 Beetle 2.5L
'04 Mini Cooper S JCW 1.6L

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511977
09/09/17 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Johnny248
LL01. Looks like they have that Castrol at Walmart. That will work. I like something with easy access. I could have sworn he said he ised Castrol 5w40 but maybe that doesn't even exist? I'm fine with the Castrol, as long as that 40w is the right option.

There are two LL01-Approved Castrol 5W-40 oils. Castrol Professional OE 5W-40 (Gold Bottle) and Castrol Edge 5W-40 (Black Bottle).


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: rooflessVW] #4511988
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson

That is NOT the oil he needs for his car.


LOL of course it is!


2004 Corolla 126813
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511990
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FWIW, Castrol lists three Edge oils for the MINI - 0w30, 0w40, and 5w30 - through the selector on their site.

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4511995
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Sae40!

If you are constantly confused about your oil choices...maybe its about time to sell that car grin try to use bus instead of your car!

Last edited by Kamele0N; 09/10/17 12:32 AM.

2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Elf FullTech FE 5w30
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: Johnny248] #4512006
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This abomination of an engine will run on any junk you fill it with.

Abomination because the timing chain will eat itself anyways if you follow the recommended service intervals.

Much more important than securing the holy oil from derr wienerschnitzel is replacing said oil every 5k miles and checking for top off every thousand.

Both 30 and 40 weight have been speced LL01. You only need magic oil if you believe in 16k mile oil changes. And fairies.

PS
BMW can go...

Last edited by DdDd; 09/10/17 01:42 AM.
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: DdDd] #4512008
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Originally Posted By: DdDd
This abomination of an engine will run on any junk you fill it with.

Abomination because the timing chain will eat itself anyways if you follow the recommended service intervals.

Much more important than securing the holy oil from derr wienerschnitzel is replacing said oil every 5k miles and checking for top off every thousand.

Both 30 and 40 weight have been speced LL01. You only need magic oil if you believe in 16k mile oil changes. And fairies.

PS
BMW can go...


Yeah, horrible. I've seen the beast eat itself in as little as 300,000 mikes following those insane OCI. No fun to drive either lol.

BTW, what do you base your option of the motor on?

Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: DdDd] #4512012
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Originally Posted By: DdDd
This abomination of an engine will run on any junk you fill it with.

Abomination because the timing chain will eat itself anyways if you follow the recommended service intervals.

Much more important than securing the holy oil from derr wienerschnitzel is replacing said oil every 5k miles and checking for top off every thousand.

Both 30 and 40 weight have been speced LL01. You only need magic oil if you believe in 16k mile oil changes. And fairies.

PS
BMW can go...

Mommy used to say that if you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself.

Why don't you tell us what you drive so we can sh!t all over it?


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: '04 Mini Cooper S JCW - 5w30 or 5w40? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4512041
09/10/17 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson

That is NOT the oil he needs for his car.


LOL of course it is!


It is not the correct oil for his engine. He would want Castrol Edge A3/B4 5w-30 if he wanted a compliant Castrol 5w-30 oil.


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