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Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna #4510035
09/07/17 01:11 PM
09/07/17 01:11 PM
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paulri Offline OP
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I was using an extension for a socket wrench to get the screw on the inside edge of the air filter housing, and I dropped it. I'm having trouble fishing it out, so I'm thinking of putting the Sienna (2005) up on ramps, and going up from below.

Before I start the car, I'm just hoping to get some confirmation here---are there any moving parts or belts right below the air filter, that could get damaged if the extension gets caught somewhere, when I'm driving it up the ramps? It would only be for a few seconds, but I'd rather not cause expensive damage here.

Last edited by paulri; 09/07/17 01:12 PM.

2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles
1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510040
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paulri Offline OP
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Another alternative is to remove the air filter, which would give my arm a few more inches of reach.

Obviously the engine would not be turning over, but would exposing the inside (downstream) paths to outside air, with no filter, for a few seconds---would that be a major no-no?


2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles
1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510043
09/07/17 01:25 PM
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Use a extension with a magnet at the end.
It will fish loose metal anything.

There is no belt on that side of the car, I am assuming this is the engine air filter (driver side) like a 2004.
All the belts and rotating pulleys are on the passenger side.

Taking out the air filter and its housing is not that difficult either.
May be even taking out the battery.


  • 2017 Toyota Sienna
  • 1995 GMC Suburban 6.5L Turbo Diesel


Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510045
09/07/17 01:27 PM
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I just cleaned the MAF and throttle body on my same model and engine sienna and there is absolutely no reason to need to go from below or have any specialized tools. I literally just have the most basic tools.

There is nothing to worry about below the airbox though, just drive on up.


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Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510047
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paulri Offline OP
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Yes, it is driver side. And I did see the timing belt on the other side, its just that I didn't want to grind it in anything else.

I'll see about the magnet.


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1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510053
09/07/17 01:32 PM
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For some reason I thought you meant going from under in order to remove the air box, to get the bolt that is just fine. Good Luck OP and a mag should help too.


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97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510057
09/07/17 01:36 PM
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paulri Offline OP
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Is there a path up (from below)--to get that extension? Or is it all closed off?

No the air filter housing, if I'm going up from below, would be above where the extension is, so if I put it up on ramps, I wouldn't need to tinker with the filter at all.


2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles
1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510067
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paulri Offline OP
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Well as I was putting the air filter housing in place before I started the engine, the plastic housing must have hit the extension, and it tumbled down to the driveway.

Thanks anyways for the replies.

I think I'll put some Super Glue on my fingers the next time I want to tinker with extensions like that. smile


2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles
1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510075
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Originally Posted By: paulri
I'll see about the magnet.


They have Ullman at Sears branded as Craftsman.


Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510076
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They make locking extensions, might be something to look into.

https://www.harborfreight.com/4-pc-38-in-drive-quick-release-extension-bar-set-67976.html

Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510107
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paulri Offline OP
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The ones I have do lock on--to the socket wrench. Unfortunately, the longer 10 mm extension pushed the wrench up too high, the shorter one had it so low the wrench would run into the air filter housing, so I just held the extension in my fingers and manually took the screw off. It was working fine until I dropped it. smile


2005 Toyota Sienna LE; 156,000 miles
1998 Honda Civic DX; 202,000 miles
Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510156
09/07/17 03:27 PM
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About 5 or 6 years ago I was using a 10mm ratcheting wrench on my Cadillac DTS. It was on the firewall side of the engine. My hand cramped up and I dropped the wrench. Looked and looked and looked and looked some more. Got my hands into every square inch I could fit them into. I never saw that wrench again.

Don

Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: Merkava_4] #4510257
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: paulri
I'll see about the magnet.


They have Ullman at Sears branded as Craftsman.



I have the HF version of this tool.
Also, one attached to a flash light.


  • 2017 Toyota Sienna
  • 1995 GMC Suburban 6.5L Turbo Diesel


Re: Suggestions for finding dropped extension, Sienna [Re: paulri] #4510362
09/07/17 06:57 PM
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#1 suggestion, let the cats cool down before running your hands everywhere.


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