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2002 Liberty engine fail #4509513
09/06/17 09:20 PM
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Chicago, IL
tomcat27 Offline OP
tomcat27  Offline OP

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I was a passenger last weekend during a 2002 Liberty engine fail. 188k miles. started hearing tapping noises going uphill pulling a boat. owner said "it's a heat shield". sure didn't sound like it. he said it made noise "on the trip up". within a few miles I surmised that we were not going to make it to our destination. the noise got louder and more constant; then it stopped completely. pulled over. smoke everywhere. oil everywhere on the right side of the engine compartment. dipstick showed about 1 quart overfilled; coolant reservoir was low; oil smelled a little odd.

apparently a rod wanted out of the engine. I'm thinking that maybe some coolant was mixing into the oil, contributing to bearing wear.
amsoil for the first 80k of its life; dino after that.

Owner just ordered a Jasper replacement engine.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509518
09/06/17 09:25 PM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Originally Posted By: tomcat27


Owner just ordered a Jasper replacement engine.


Looks like the replacement will only last about 15k miles. grin

With the over filled oil and low coolant, my guess is a head gasket failure. The Jeep 4.0's that had the head cracking problem would usually fail the same way. It would overheat, cylinder head would crack, coolant would get in the oil, and before long the bearings were shot and the oil pressure would get low at hot idle. A few months later and a rod would come through the block.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509524
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Jasper never again.


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509557
09/06/17 10:04 PM
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texas
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texas
It was 12K short of 200K that a pretty good life for a jeep engine. replace or get it rebuilt and call it good.

Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509561
09/06/17 10:08 PM
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Time to LS swap it.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4509604
09/06/17 11:20 PM
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Central Washington
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
Time to LS swap it.

Or a Hemi


-Colton
2002 Ford Crown Vic PI 207k, Ex-Kootenai County, ID Unit #42
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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509616
09/06/17 11:50 PM
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Killer223 Offline
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cummins repower.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: Killer223] #4509620
09/06/17 11:52 PM
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Central Washington
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Originally Posted By: Killer223
cummins repower.

You know I was really tempted to say that too.
Then you could buy the factory diesel badging for a liberty and show your diesel pride.

Last edited by Colt45ws; 09/06/17 11:53 PM.

-Colton
2002 Ford Crown Vic PI 207k, Ex-Kootenai County, ID Unit #42
Down for engine swap
2003 Ford Crown Vic PI 86k
Pennzoil Conv HM 5W30, Fram XG2
Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509622
09/06/17 11:53 PM
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My sister had a 02 Liberty 3.7L. Failed same way , overheated and then head gasket blew. Unfortunately, I was two states away and couldnt help her out.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509624
09/06/17 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Owner just ordered a Jasper replacement engine.


Not a good idea.

Jasper Never Again Thread

Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: Merkava_4] #4509632
09/07/17 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Owner just ordered a Jasper replacement engine.


Not a good idea.

Jasper Never Again Thread


A sample of one means nothing. Stinks to be the guy with the bad engine but 1 data point isn't a valid way to make a decision.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509650
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I'd pass on the Jasper engine. There are better choices, some of which might cost more but IMO if the vehicle is still good would be well worth it.


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Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509656
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Jasper is the name of Dana Perino's dog on "The Five".

Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: AZjeff] #4509752
09/07/17 08:27 AM
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Colorado
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Owner just ordered a Jasper replacement engine.


Not a good idea.

Jasper Never Again Thread


A sample of one means nothing. Stinks to be the guy with the bad engine but 1 data point isn't a valid way to make a decision.


Read the entire thread. More than one, including me.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: 2002 Liberty engine fail [Re: tomcat27] #4509796
09/07/17 09:21 AM
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02s did have that issue, more so than the 03+ 3.7s. I'd bet money he wasn't running HOAT coolant too.

Pretty common to see well over 200k+ from newer ones, or even 300k.

Last edited by HoosierJeeper; 09/07/17 09:21 AM.

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