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PUP vs PP #4509390
09/06/17 07:11 PM
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I can't seem to find deals on PUP anymore (local store). However, I have been seeing PP around $18-20 per 5qt. is PUP still all that and a bag of chips over PP? Usually pick up 0w20 and 0w40.

If this has already been covered recently feel free to flame the post- I searched here and google and didn't come up with anything newer than 2013...

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509403
09/06/17 07:36 PM
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I wish there was most info on PUP, it is supposed to be better than PP. but by how much and in what way? I have 15- 5 quart jugs of it since no one can ever find it, I stock piled it.

Also if you are HellaBroke there are probably some better options out there for you wink


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509415
09/06/17 07:53 PM
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Maryland
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Walmart had PUP online for $24.95 a jug about a month ago. I got four jugs. Someone posted a notice here on BITOG and I got it before it quickly sold out.

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509429
09/06/17 08:07 PM
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Haven't seen PUP in our local WMs in over a year.

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509448
09/06/17 08:22 PM
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PUP doesn't ever exist in my local store but is available at Walmart online sometimes. I bought 4 5qt jugs of 5w20 for around $19.67 or so plus mail in rebate which I got right away. This site is what alerted me of its availability. Just have to wait and strike when the time is right.


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Re: PUP vs PP [Re: mbacfp] #4509465
09/06/17 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: mbacfp
PUP doesn't ever exist in my local store but is available at Walmart online sometimes. I bought 4 5qt jugs of 5w20 for around $19.67 or so plus mail in rebate which I got right away. This site is what alerted me of its availability. Just have to wait and strike when the time is right.


I concur.
Hardly ever exists and when it does it's GONE Fast.
Personally never wanted to do anything with it as it's so hard to get.
Tend to just stick to what I can find.

Hope someone else can help you out

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509482
09/06/17 08:51 PM
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It's just easier to stick with the regular Platinum synthetic. It is a good oil. If you are running a shorter OCI, it makes better sense to stat with the Platinum.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509491
09/06/17 08:59 PM
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I don't think PUP is worth buying until SOPUS can figure out how to produce it and distribute it. The last time I could freely buy it was Q1 of 2015. Since then it has appeared once in a while but gets bought up quickly.

Note that I only consider it worth buying at less than $30 for 5qts. There are too many just as good oils that can be had for $25 any day of the week.

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509618
09/06/17 11:51 PM
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Bought like 100 qts of QSUD from AAP clearance sale in 0w20. When I use up my last PUP I'm staying with QSUD 0w20.


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Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509651
09/07/17 04:09 AM
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If you want to use PUP you have to be patient and frequently look on WMT's website. They have it from time to time under $25 for a 5 quart jug. When they have it act fast and buy a years supply. LOL That's the key. I can't figure out for the life of me what Pennzoil's problem is with keeping this oil in the supply chain.

AMZN has it from time to time as well. Again patience is the key, or use something else.


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Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509670
09/07/17 06:04 AM
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East Coast
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Same here in my area (VA). You can find PP all day long, but PUP is very hard to find. You can only find it in QT bottles also, never the 5 QT jugs like PP. It costs over $1.00 per QT than PP also.

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509674
09/07/17 06:17 AM
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No one seems to be answering the original question as to what is the difference in the additive package?

Last edited by Spector; 09/07/17 06:18 AM.
Re: PUP vs PP [Re: Spector] #4509684
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There have not been any reports in recent history. All the analysis reports I see are old and most likely outdated. Besides, oil companies are reformulating for dexos gen2.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509688
09/07/17 07:01 AM
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Iowa
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Iowa
I believe that pup has more cleaners in it like calcium.
Last i checked pup is not dexos 1 gen 2 approved. That MAY have have to do with the high cleaner content which MAY cause issues with turbo gdi ignition.
Hopefully someone here can confirm my recollection.


2011 Equinox, 2.4l
2009 Sienna, 3.5l
Re: PUP vs PP [Re: HellaBroke] #4509702
09/07/17 07:22 AM
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Tennessee
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Tennessee
PQIA report in 2013 on PUP and PP. 5w-30

PUP PP
TBN---------- 9.4 9.0
100c ---------9.9 10.0
40c ---------55.7 55.1
VI ---------165 171
volatility loss 6.6 9.3
-30 ----------3827 4154
Calcium ------2684 2624
magnesium -----17 13
Phosphorus ----744 651
zinc ----------987 869
Moly ----------68 59
Boron ---------152 2


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