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Sisters bad Toyota experience #4509059
09/06/17 12:04 PM
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madRiver Offline OP
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My sister had a 2008 Rav 4 with i4/Awd and 143,000 miles. She had okay service with it except for failed steering column that she paid $700 out of pocket but latter reimbursed. The next issue was grinding rear diff. The mechanic we use found out there was extended program to fix which sadly my sister missed window by 3 days (9 years from in service) . Toyota "care" stated too bad and she was stuck with $2k repair to replace and another $1k in related area fixes due to rot so more involved.

She now has vowed never to buy Toyota which Toyota care did not care about and thankfully Honda dealer handed her $5.5k in trade in as grinding diff stayed quiet for dealer trade valuation. She drives a 2017 Crv now.

Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509067
09/06/17 12:09 PM
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First hand issues, be they dealership service, reliability or performance, can absolutely shape future decisions. I hope the CRV serves her well for many years. They are solid vehicles.


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509079
09/06/17 12:22 PM
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Yeah, our 2005 Rav 4 fell apart more than it should have by 50K. Waterpump, rear shocks, rear exhaust, excessive engine racket and oil usage, hyd clutch slave.

I drove it a few times and its was fantastic at around 15K miles, much better than Subaru. Giant rear door (hanging the spare) that could swallow a snow blower assembled or a new super capacity dryer - in the box!

No rear Bumper though! I guess the tire was the bumper.


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4509087
09/06/17 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite

No rear Bumper though! I guess the tire was the bumper.


That gen RAV 4 sustains a lot of damage if if gets rear ended. The tailgate distorts badly and the floor plan buckles.


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509090
09/06/17 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
My sister had a 2008 Rav 4 with i4/Awd and 143,000 miles. She had okay service with it except for failed steering column that she paid $700 out of pocket but latter reimbursed. The next issue was grinding rear diff. The mechanic we use found out there was extended program to fix which sadly my sister missed window by 3 days (9 years from in service) . Toyota "care" stated too bad and she was stuck with $2k repair to replace and another $1k in related area fixes due to rot so more involved.

She now has vowed never to buy Toyota which Toyota care did not care about and thankfully Honda dealer handed her $5.5k in trade in as grinding diff stayed quiet for dealer trade valuation. She drives a 2017 Crv now.

Every time I hear this [censored] Mazda keeps sounding a little better!

Last edited by Kestas; 09/06/17 02:52 PM. Reason: bypassing censor
Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509099
09/06/17 12:45 PM
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So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509106
09/06/17 12:51 PM
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That thing is a peach compared to some cars I've experienced.

When did she last change the diff fluid?


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4509108
09/06/17 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Every time I hear this [censored] Mazda keeps sounding a little better!

Some years ago the transmission on my Mazda 626 bought new with 50K warranty went out at 51K. Mazda said, in effect, [censored] No more Mazda's for me.


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: Astro14] #4509119
09/06/17 01:10 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


Haven't you heard? Every car should last 300k miles with only changing oil and tires. They OWE it to us!!

Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509138
09/06/17 01:31 PM
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That's our advantage as BITOGers, or mechanics-I lose a rear axle in my MGM (known early '03 issue), off to the junkyard for a low mileage newer rear axle I go! Even if I have to pay somebody to put it in, I'm still way ahead. No Ford "stealership" for me!


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: Astro14] #4509146
09/06/17 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


It's all about expectations.

3 days sooner and she'd be a happy Toyota driver.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: Leo99] #4509151
09/06/17 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Originally Posted By: Astro14
So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


It's all about expectations.

3 days sooner and she'd be a happy Toyota driver.


Exactly. Plus, according to most sources, the CRV is even less reliable. So if she had owned that she might have been unhappy with the CRV too.

Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: Astro14] #4509161
09/06/17 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


I wonder how long she let the noise go before doing something about it. Noise, what noise? Just turn the stereo up louder grin


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: WillsYoda] #4509182
09/06/17 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: WillsYoda
Originally Posted By: Leo99
Originally Posted By: Astro14
So, it went 143,000 miles before she had to pay for a major repair?

And she lives in the rust belt, so it has rust, too?

And you think the CRV will last longer before rust or a major out of pocket repair?

Good luck....


It's all about expectations.

3 days sooner and she'd be a happy Toyota driver.


Exactly. Plus, according to most sources, the CRV is even less reliable. So if she had owned that she might have been unhappy with the CRV too several years ago.


Fixed it for you.


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Re: Sisters bad Toyota experience [Re: madRiver] #4509198
09/06/17 02:55 PM
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Disappointing for sure, but I guess with me being the DIY type, it wouldn't bother me. Just playing devils advocate, how long was it making noise before she took it in? My idea of making noise and someone elses idea of making noise are 2 different things. If this is going where I think it's going, I probably would have looked into the issue and/or fixed the issue 6-12+ months ago.

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