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Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics #4507642
09/04/17 09:17 PM
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Clermont, Florida
Jimmy9190 Offline OP
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This PH7317 is from my 2013 Honda Civic 1.8 liter, 50,128 miles on the odometer and about 4,920 miles on the filter and OCI. The filter looks great to me, no tears in the media or adbv, the pleats were straight and pretty well evenly spaced and in excellent condition. The end caps were still very securely attached to the media. I found no problems at all with the filter and installed another PH7317 on my oil change today. The PH7317 is a good filter and works just fine for me.

Date code, made at the Greenville, Ohio plant on Jan. 22, 2017.





All components disassembled. The can on this Fram was a good thick gauge steel and hard to cut with tin snips. That is why I butchered the can when I cut it open.



ADBV was still very soft and pliable. There was not a nick or indentation or cut anywhere on it.





Nice even pleat spacing. Media seam was 100% intact. No tears or loose media at all.




Round holes, not louvers in the center tube.





I like the concave structure of the base plate, it is nearly identical to the OEM Honda filter base plate. I would think the base plate design would result in better oil flow in the filter. I also like the larger inlet holes.



It still held some oil after draining for an hour:



Jimmy9190
2013 Honda Civic LX Sedan
Supertech Synthetic 0W20
Fram PH7317
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507651
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Another Orange Can Of Delight!

Thanks for the C&P


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507657
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Looks great! ... Only filter my father ever used for as long as I can remember and he always gets 300,000 out of his cars.

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507660
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I think someone on here said that the orange can Fram was getting upgraded to a silicon ADV? Can someone confirm this?

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507679
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Looks great!


2012 Honda Accord EX-L K24z3
54,xxx miles
PPPP 0w20 / Fram Ultra

2014 VW Jetta SE 1.8T ea888
40,xxx miles
Castrol OEM dealer fill / OEM filter
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507695
09/04/17 10:33 PM
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Great job here Jimmy. The Fram 7317 extra guard is a good filter.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507742
09/05/17 12:40 AM
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Quote:
it is nearly identical to the OEM Honda filter base plate.


That's because it is identical. The Honda A02 is made by FRAM.

Thanks for the C&P. The filter looks great.


2015 Infiniti Q50
VAS 5W-30 + FRAM PH6607

2015 Nissan Murano
Mobil1 AFE 0W-20 + FRAM XG6607
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507853
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Looks great. This looks like a Fram Tough Guard, honestly. I wonder if they're improving the media. For the price, this isn't a bad deal at all.

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507896
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The actual filter element itself looks 1000% Better than the filters Fram was making 15-20 years ago.


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Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507930
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I recently cut and inspected a PH10575 off my F150 and it looked exactly like the filter posted here. It was used for 5600 miles but looked like a new filter that had been dipped in some used oil. Every pleat was straight up and down without a hint of stress showing.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4507943
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No problem there
Thanks for the pictures.
I don't see the value in these but if you're happy so are we!

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4508090
09/05/17 12:59 PM
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This Fram baseplate is different than the one shown in thread below, much wider land for the adbv seal to base. The inlet holes go nowhere near past the crown of the sealing area like the other one. Good pleats too, looks like all good, a nice budget choice filter for that car. I guess the Honda Fram is not much more money though, if any more.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4499635/Re:_VIRGIN_FRAM_TG8A_CUT_OPEN#Post4499635

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Camprunner] #4508198
09/05/17 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Camprunner
I think someone on here said that the orange can Fram was getting upgraded to a silicon ADV? Can someone confirm this?


Yes sir they are. Motorking (the Fram rep here) posted this a while back. Can't remember exactly when.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 200k Castrol Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: dlundblad] #4508256
09/05/17 04:59 PM
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The orange cans should be getting the silicone upgrade soon. Which could mean.... Drum roll please.. orange cans for $1.50 or cheaper at Wally World.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Fram PH7317 Orange Can cut open, pics [Re: Jimmy9190] #4508296
09/05/17 05:57 PM
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The silicone OCOD is already on sale. I have spotted them at Walmart smile

Anyway, thank you for the cut and post thumbsup

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