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QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L #4507224
09/04/17 12:44 PM
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Here's a couple of results of UOA done by two different labs that are local to me. This is convenient, no mailing involved.
Although both provide sufficient information (I guess), WearCheck goes into more details.

The car is 2015 Mazda CX-5 AWD 2.5L gas.

The oil is changed every 4 months, as per owner's manual. The vehicle experiences many short trips and occasional long runs, to get some steam out.
The later OCI involved 3,500km trip to Eastern Canada and back to Ontario.
The engine does not consume any visible amount of oil between OCIs, the oil level predictably goes up if no long hauls are involved, due to the infamous DI fuel dilution.
Earlier sample contained LiquiMoly MoS2 additive, for the duration of the interval.

What do you guys think?

Code:
Date				5/7/2016	8/21/2017
Oil Km				5500		6400
Unit Km				22300		37850
Oil				QSUD 0w20	Castrol Edge 0w20
Lab				WearCheck	NAPA
						
Fe				9.1		5
Cr				0.2		<1
Mn				0.2		
Ni				0		<1
Ti				0		26
Ag				0		<1
Al				7.2		5
Pb				0		<1
Cu				1.9		3
Sn				0.1		0.1
Sb				1.6		
V				0.2		<1
						
Si				13		11
Na				3.7		4
Ka				0.4		0.4
						
B				222		318
Ba				0.4		<1
Mo				691		132
Mg				13		9
Ca				2307		2451
P				727		809
Zn				823		885
S				2614		
Li				0.1		
						
Oxidation (PA)			70		
Nitration (PA)			56		
Sulfation (PA)			65		
AntiWear			19.5		
Infra-red Glycol		0		
Infra-red Water			20.5		
IR (EP H2O)			34.1		
IR (Synth BD1)			1.1		
IR (Synth BD2)			0		
Infra-red Fuel			257.80		
IR (Gasoline)			0.00		
IR (Other)			15.7		
Water %						<0.05
						
Visc @ 100C			6.5		7.1
Base Number (mgKOH/g)				5.9			

Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507261
09/04/17 01:51 PM
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They look close but even with the Moly boost on the QSUD, the Edge looks to have the edge. (had to say it). The Ti could be from the Edge formulation.

What you did was change the lab as well as the sample so that could account for some of the small differences .
When comparing oils (or anything) you really want to change only the thing you are comparing, keep everything else the same so you know
where the differences came from.

Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507265
09/04/17 01:56 PM
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I know, I just wanted to see if NAPA/ABS lab provides some extra details. They do include TBN, however less of other things compared to WearCheck. I still need to talk to WCP about the meaning of their IR data, looks confusing to me.


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Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507299
09/04/17 02:48 PM
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691 PPM of moly in QSUD....WOW....that's a lot of moly.....


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Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507322
09/04/17 03:19 PM
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QSUD was boosted by LM MoS2 additive...


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Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507444
09/04/17 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: yugrus
QSUD was boosted by LM MoS2 additive...



Yes, I see that now....I missed it when I first glanced at your original post.
Even with the additional moly in the QSUD, the Castrol seemed to work better....but maybe the long highway run is the reason why...


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Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507447
09/04/17 06:16 PM
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Mazda recommends it's own Moly oil, or Castrol. Go figure...


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Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507448
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Edge has the Edge.

Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: yugrus] #4507721
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Originally Posted By: yugrus
Mazda recommends it's own Moly oil, or Castrol. Go figure...



All automakers recommend a certain brand. That doesn't mean you have to use it. That brand pays for the advertising.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: QSUD/Castrol 0w20 2015 Mazda CX-5 2.5L [Re: PimTac] #4507769
09/05/17 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: yugrus
Mazda recommends it's own Moly oil, or Castrol. Go figure...



All automakers recommend a certain brand. That doesn't mean you have to use it. That brand pays for the advertising.


Yep!


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