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Honda generator engine #4506417
09/03/17 03:40 PM
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Hello, I'm new to the forum. please forgive me if I'm posting incorrectly. I read a few articles, and searched for similar topics. But had no luck. I bought a new honda eu2000i generator. I want to use the correct oil and break it in properly. From what I have read so far, a synthetic 0w30 may be the right oil. The biggest issue seems to be the warm up stage. My question is: the oil additives like slick 50 and similar brands are supposed to protect your engine better at start up, leaving a residual coating on the parts. I did not see much on this sort of additive. Are they good for the use in these small engines in generators? Are they even any good for my car engine? Thanks in advance for any help and information.

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506434
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What does Honda recommend?


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506440
09/03/17 04:14 PM
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I use m1 0w30 in mine with a dash of moly.

Honda EU7000. Change the oil every other year


2005 Tahoe - 135k
2003 Forester(the swagger wagon) - Rehomed
1999 Passat - Rehomed
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506446
09/03/17 04:19 PM
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skip the snake oil.
my eu1000i gets 15w40 hdeo.
its what i most often have.
same for the eb3500 and the 70's generac.
and in the time i have owned the generac it has seen over 500 hours.
no oil consumption either.
it ran 24/7 for 2 1/2 weeks with only fuel oil check/change when ike hit.
and recently a week after a big windstorm.

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506448
09/03/17 04:20 PM
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Honda says 10W-30, I would use a full synthetic...

My personal choice would be Castrol Edge 0W-30 in the black bottle, however it is nearly impossible to find...

Any 10W-30 will work, Advanced Auto has Quaker State Ultimate Durability on sale,

A drippings jug would work too...
(A jug you drain the dregs of oil bottles into, you get a tablespoon or two from each one if you let it drain for a day)

No additives except a drop or two of Sta-Bil Marine (blue) in the fuel tank.


Last edited by mattwithcats; 09/03/17 04:24 PM.

2009 Smart Pure
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40, Purolator Synthetic PSL 14610, 45 mpg...
185/55R15 General HP tires, "H" speed rated, 44 psi (300 kpa)
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506475
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Honda eu2000i generators are known for running thousands of hours with only regular oil changes. Forget about any additives.


Boy will I be happy when ALL vehicles on public roads are autonomous.


JimPghPa

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506533
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I been running Rotella in my Honda mower and generator for some years now.
I would not add additives (Slick 50).

If I didn't have Rotella, there are a lot of other oils to choose from. Me, I have a stash of PYB because that is what I use in my daily driver, but I'd be interested on how MagnaTec would do. But still, I plan on sticking to Rotella.

My local auto store stopped selling Rotella by the quart, so a gallon I guess will last me some time.

Exercise that generator on occasion (I usually do a monthly run). And I keep the blue Stabil in the gas cans.

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506573
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Forget any additives. 0-30 in a quality synthetic should be fine.


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506653
09/03/17 07:02 PM
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Honda EU6500is generator owner here. (3600 hours from the previous owner, unknown oil used)

Honda's motor recommendations are usually either straight 30 wt or 10W30.

My personal preference:

Cost is no object oil> Amsoil MCT Metric 10W30 motorcycle oil. (244C Flash point, 3.5 HTHS, 11 TBN)

Best Bang for the buck oil> Mobil 1 10W30 high mileage (for its 3.5 HTHS)

Best Value oil> Chevron Severe Duty 15W30 HDEO.

I notice that other small engine manufacturers (Kawasaki, Yamaha) are starting to expand their recommended oils to 10W40 wt oil, up from 10W30. Do they know something that Honda doesn't? Delo 15W40 in my 21 HP Kawasaki powered, Cub Cadet lawn tractor right now. Works great! Going to try it in the generator next time.

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4506739
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Onan recommends 15-40 in their long run RV gensets. My 5500 has over 4000hrs on it with 100 hr changes of whatever 15-40 diesel oil I get for my Cummins. No oil usage whatsoever.


2008 Mini Cooper Clubman (toad)
2000 Mercedes ML320
1994 Dodge 2500 Cummins
1999 Ford F53 V10 Coachman Motorhome 34ft
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: pkunk] #4507008
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Originally Posted By: pkunk
Onan recommends 15-40 in their long run RV gensets. My 5500 has over 4000hrs on it with 100 hr changes of whatever 15-40 diesel oil I get for my Cummins. No oil usage whatsoever.


Wow! That's some serious hrs for a small generator.


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4507019
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Since all Honda generators are splash lube engines....meaning there's no oil filter to filter out any contaminates, changing the oil at the correct manufacturer recommended interval is more important and does more to extend engine life than what kind of oils are used.

Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4507171
09/04/17 10:24 AM
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What Speedy said above^^^.

The Honda EU series is very highly regarded so I would use whatever Honda recommends. No additives.

For the record, I use RT5 10W-30 in my Subaru-Robin RG4300iS.


Supercharged '03 Mercury Marauder - Trilogy Motorsports #61
PP 5W-30 / MC FL820S

'04 Grand Marquis LS Limited Edition - daily driver

'00 Grand Marquis GS - bad frame/future to be determined
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: headie] #4507212
09/04/17 11:26 AM
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If you can find like M1 0w40 or any 5w40 HDEO on sale, as well as M1 10w30 are good picks with high HTHS.


2017 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
2012 Gravely ZT XL 48 w/ Kawasaki FR730
Re: Honda generator engine [Re: SpeedyG75VW] #4507934
09/05/17 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: SpeedyG75VW
Since all Honda generators are splash lube engines....meaning there's no oil filter to filter out any contaminates, changing the oil at the correct manufacturer recommended interval is more important and does more to extend engine life than what kind of oils are used.


+1

The condition of the oil and the oil level are more important than brand used. Since small engines are air cooled, it is not unusual for them to consume a bit of oil when running under load for long periods of time. I usually recommend a Heavy Duty engine oil for small engines.

I personally run Rotella T6 5w40 or T5 10w30 in my flat head Briggs powered Coleman generator.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (36k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
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