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Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 #4505362
09/02/17 11:26 AM
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javacontour Offline OP
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If all goes well the nearly 226k mile Protégé5 will be replaced with a 2012 Mazda3 with 65k miles. It is the 2.5 Grand Touring 2.5 6M. Stay tuned.


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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505369
09/02/17 11:32 AM
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Colorado
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Sounds like you're a convinced and solid Mazda owner...been considering one myself. Reliable for you?


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505396
09/02/17 11:48 AM
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Orlando, FL
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Mazda3 is a great value for the money.

Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505514
09/02/17 02:05 PM
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Buffalo, NY
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The best in its class...

Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505584
09/02/17 04:09 PM
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javacontour Offline OP
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Not as troublefree as my Toyotas, but more fun to drive. Used is the way to buy them. My P5 with bald tires, obviously rusting and leaking oil and $9100 for the much newer and lower mileage fully loaded 3. The only option I think it is missing is the automatic. Leather, moonroof, NAV (such as it is) Bose audio, traction control, ABS, and Mazda's smart key technology.

They have to fix the passenger front door latch as you cannot open it from the inside , so I have a we owe from them for that.


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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505603
09/02/17 04:35 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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Rust proof it if you plan to keep it long. smile


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: Rolla07] #4505793
09/02/17 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Rust proof it if you plan to keep it long. smile


I would never rust proof via the dealership services. My parents have had good luck with the oil spray via Carwell's...

Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4505989
09/03/17 06:17 AM
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javacontour Offline OP
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Photos from the dealership ad:

















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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4506092
09/03/17 09:38 AM
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javacontour Offline OP
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Final tally for the 2003 Protege5.

Ownership Duration: 6 years, 8 months, 20 days
Miles driven: 136,021
Total Costs* $22631.73
Cost/Mile $0.166
Average Fuel Economy 30.15MPG
Average Fuel Cost/Gallon $2.454
Spending:
- Fuel $11071.60
- M&R $7260.13
- Depreciation $4300 ($5300 purchase 4/13/2011 - $1000 trade allowance 9/2/2017)


* Total costs are purchase, fuel, maintenance and repairs. Does not count taxes, tags, insurance as they are different for differing locations and drivers.


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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4509459
09/06/17 08:27 PM
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utah
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Nice transmission!


2016 Golf Wagon 5MT, 2014 Accord Sport 6MT, 2016 GMC 1500 SLT 6.2
Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4509714
09/07/17 07:40 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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Looks good, how do the two cars compare? The 2.5 must pull pretty good.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: IndyIan] #4512044
09/10/17 07:07 AM
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javacontour Offline OP
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Yes, the 2.5 pulls much harder than the 2.0L And, if I drive it sensibly, I can get better fuel economy as well. I think the average will be about the same, low 30s.

I've driven the car for about a week now and just over 500 miles. My mileage has been about 50/50 town and highway. Just under 30MPG, with almost 36MPG on yesterday's 260 mile round trip that was mostly highway. Set the cruise at 75 (in a 70) and drove.

The Mazda3 is much quieter than the P5 and geared a bit better. I'd be at about 3500-3600 RPMs doing 75 in the P5 where the MZ3 is doing about 500 RPMs less.

I do have to work on losing my muscle memory for Reverse and only 5 speeds.

P5 Gear Ratios
===============
Gear Ratios 5-Speed Manual
1st 3.31
2nd 1.84
3rd 1.31
4th 0.97
5th 0.76
Reverse 3.17
Final Drive 4.11


Mazda 3 Gear Ratios
===============
Gear Ratios 6-Speed Manual
1st 3.45
2nd 2.06
3rd 1.39
4th 1.03
5th 0.84
6th 0.72
Reverse 3.45
Final Drive 4.11

So it's going to turn a bit slower in 6th compared to the P5 if the numbers I've found are what I have. I believe I've picked the right MTX for my car. There are three different units offered, but this one seems to match the 2.5L offerings.



Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Looks good, how do the two cars compare? The 2.5 must pull pretty good.


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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4513075
09/11/17 10:15 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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That's a nice improvement in cruising rpms and mileage.
Enjoy the car!


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: IndyIan] #4513437
09/11/17 04:17 PM
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javacontour Offline OP
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The tires have a bit more diameter as well, going from 195/50/17 to 205/50/17 improves the ratio as well.


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Re: Goodbye 2003 Protege5, hello 2012 Mazda3 2.5 [Re: javacontour] #4515380
09/13/17 05:05 PM
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Illinois
javacontour Offline OP
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That should have been 195/50/16 on the old P5, not 17" wheels.

Originally Posted By: javacontour
The tires have a bit more diameter as well, going from 195/50/17 to 205/50/17 improves the ratio as well.


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