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m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 #4503204
08/31/17 09:43 AM
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con't from http://tinyurl.com/y8hmwkcw

2016 escape 2.0L ecoboost, 4th o/c, 75% highway, TG3614
8.8% fuel dilution, severity 4.


Code:
OIL             M1EP 5W30	M1 5W30
MILES IN USE    7370		7257
O&F CHANGED     Y		Y  
MILES           24.2K		16.8K
MAKEUP OIL	0		0
EOLR		26%		27%
SAMPLE TAKEN    19-AUG-2017	1-MAR-2017
LAB             OAI		OAI

IRON		21		20
CHROMIUM        0		1       
NICKEL		0		1
ALUMINIUM	8		7
COPPER          3		6     
LEAD            0      		0
TIN             0       	0
CADMIUM		0		0
SILVER		0		0
VANADIUM	0		0
SILICON		16		18		
SODIUM		1		3
POTASSIUM	16		23
TITANIUM	0		0		
MOLYBDENUM      81		84     
ANTIMONY        0		1
MANGANESE	0		0
LITHIUM		0		0   
BORON		41		38      
MAGNESIUM	719		667    
CALCIUM		1017		1021
BARIUM		0		0
PHOSPHORUS	657		637     
ZINC		794		759    
  
      
WATER           0		0
cSt @ 212F     8.4		8.6
FUEL            8.8%		>5%
TAN		3.01		2.73
TBN             3.95		3.92
OXIDATION       13		14
NITRATION       13		15

Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: pb] #4503214
08/31/17 09:55 AM
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Rings aren't seating very fast. How long did you run the factory fill? What were the other two oil changes - oil type & miles? Even with all the fuel, the wear #'s are fine. I'd try some SuperTech dino for 5000 miles and then revisit.


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Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: pb] #4503533
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Wow. Don't know what to say.


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Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: bigt61] #4503574
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Originally Posted By: bigt61
Rings aren't seating very fast. How long did you run the factory fill? What were the other two oil changes - oil type & miles? Even with all the fuel, the wear #'s are fine. I'd try some SuperTech dino for 5000 miles and then revisit.
SuperTech dino in a direct injected turbo engine for 5000 miles??? Gosh at least a blend! Or 3000 miles at most! Mobil Super HM blend or Havoline HM blend will do 5k though. And do it cheaply. But I'd stay with synthetic only.

Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: Vladiator] #4503610
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Ford doesn't require anything special oil wise for an eco boost.


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Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: CT8] #4503617
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Only needs to last 60k for them ...


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Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: pb] #4503695
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Gosh, that's a lot of fuel dilution. On the other hand, look at the test/retest results Parisha reported on his 1.5T Civic: makes one wonder whether these results have value at all.

When did OAI start quantifying fuel dilution above 5%? That used to be the maximum.

Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: Danh] #4503918
08/31/17 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Danh

When did OAI start quantifying fuel dilution above 5%? That used to be the maximum.


the first report i received listed the component as a diesel. they've since amended and now the value is ">5%"

Re: m1ep 5w30 7.4k miles '16 escape 2L GTDI severity 4 [Re: pb] #4504158
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OP, did you notice an increase in crankcase level? Even 5% dilution would add 1/4 or 1/3 of a quart of volume to the sump. Wear metals look OK so maybe even this level of dilution is harmless though worrying.


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