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#4502314 - 08/30/17 01:51 PM Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R
iLovePho Offline


Registered: 08/30/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Queens, NY
Just purchased a CTR a month ago and still got some ways to go until I'll need an oil change (currently at 1500 miles and change) but want to get an idea of what oil to use when the time comes (~6,000 miles, typically when the maintenance minder light comes on). I've always used Mobil 1 Full Synthetic on my previous Hondas, but this being my first turbocharged one (and highest performing), only the best will do grin

1. What kind of vehicle you have: 2017 Honda Civic Type R
2. What your owner's manual says -- not just viscosity, but certifications (look for acronyms like API SM, ILSAC GF-4, etc.) and change intervals as well: API Premium-grade 0W-20 detergent oil; no set change interval but from online research, maintenance minder light will come on at ~6,000 miles to change oil
3. Where you live: Queens, New York
4. How you drive (easy? hard? fast? slow?): Normal to fast daily driving; weekend spirited driving
5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?): ~20 miles a day; Mix of city and highway
6. Whether your car has any known problems: No problems

I prefer to use full synthetic and an interval in line with the maintenance minder (~6,000 miles). Not sure if a huge difference maker, but aside from daily driver duties and spirited weekend drives, I might also do some HPDE track days.

Thanks in advance!

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#4502322 - 08/30/17 01:57 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I am surprised it calls for 0W20. I would be tempted to use a good full synthetic 0W30, 5W30 or even 0W40 like Pennzoil Ultra or Castrol Edge, especially with a turbo that will be really hard on the oil. I use Castrol Edge 0W40 in my K20 Civic.
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#4502326 - 08/30/17 02:02 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2550
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: iLovePho
I've always used Mobil 1 Full Synthetic on my previous Hondas, but this being my first turbocharged one (and highest performing), only the best will do grin

Mobil just came out with a dexos1 Gen2-quality 0w20 in their "Annual Protection" oil at Walmart (cheapest with $10 e-Gift card rebate; other online rebates from Mobil might be available too). That uses the latest set of base oils and additives Mobil can produce right now. Change at normal intervals, and its tough stuff for that, plenty of performance margin.
There is one higher spec (maybe slightly higher spec) than dexos1 Gen2 to look for: BMW and/or Mini: dealership or eBay or Amazon(?) oil, their 0w20, which should perform at a very high level.

Oil filter: Look for a Fram Ultra or Royal Purple oil filter for the highest performance and tough construction possible. The Fram Ultra's are not too expensive at Walmart either.

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#4502333 - 08/30/17 02:09 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 526
Loc: TX
If you are planning to run 0w20 you better be ready to change oil every 2-3K. These turbo engines are hard on oil and proved themselves as an awesome fuel diltuters. With my 1.5T Civic it dilutes oil badly with mostly highway cruising. With track/spirited driving it will be like water by the time MM will tell you it is time to change. With that said, next OC I'll go up to 0w30. I'd suggest you go higher on the weight as well. Unless you don't plan to keep the car long term.
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#4502335 - 08/30/17 02:13 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: mightymousetech]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2550
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
I am surprised it calls for 0W20. I would be tempted to use a good full synthetic 0W30, 5W30 or even 0W40 like Pennzoil Ultra or Castrol Edge, especially with a turbo that will be really hard on the oil. I use Castrol Edge 0W40 in my K20 Civic.

The big fear is fuel dilution in these turbos. It does happen.
Maybe a good idea is to use a 0w20 from Redline (https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=124&pcid=21), which is practically a street oil and a racing oil too. Stands up to extreme HTHS conditions, with HTHS=2.9, qualifies in HTHS as a 30-weight.
Redline has a great reputaion on and off the track. Lots of moly in there too.

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#4502342 - 08/30/17 02:18 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18150
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
How about a good 5W20 over the 0W20?
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#4502343 - 08/30/17 02:19 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1267
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
I'd use the M1 AFE 0W-30. I'd also change that oil right now, and get a UOA to see where your viscosity and fuel dilution are at.

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#4502351 - 08/30/17 02:25 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
HemiHawk Offline


Registered: 03/09/16
Posts: 827
Loc: PA,US
This is tough. For warranty reason I'd say go with what they say you need. Sounds like 0w20. That said, as others are saying I would think this car needs some 0w30. I'm not normally one to jump on the higher visc wagon, but this car is pushing roughly 153 horsepower per liter. I've seen some reports of the coolant spiking during track use as well. If the coolant temp is getting hot, the oil certainly is. I've kept a pretty close eye on this car as I've thought for awhile about getting one. I loved my Civic Si and regretted selling it.

I'd also be surprised if the built in mileage minder calculates all that different from a standard civic, but its possible. My Si would say 10% remaining at 6k miles like you mentioned.

Post some pics of that beast!
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#4502356 - 08/30/17 02:29 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Would be interesting to see what oil is spec'd in other countries like the UK.
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#4502358 - 08/30/17 02:30 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: HemiHawk]
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 526
Loc: TX
There are multiple ways you can attain receipts with proper grade and keep them for your records and warranty purposes. Keep 0w20 receipts and use heavier oil. Problem solved.

As far as the track goes I'd imagine you need to change oil after it anyways...
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#4502359 - 08/30/17 02:32 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 459
Loc: DFW
In my opinion, I'd rather go with an oil that's not API certified than go out of grade should an issue come up that required warranty coverage. Personally, I'd just run a thicker 0W-20 like Red Line. Just my .02 cents though.

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#4502363 - 08/30/17 02:36 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: JustN89]
parshisa Offline


Registered: 05/21/17
Posts: 526
Loc: TX
Fuel dilution doesn't care whether the oil is API certified or not. I ran Amsoil SS which is on a heavy side and POA/Ester based and it still diluted badly just in 5K. another 2c
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#4502368 - 08/30/17 02:43 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18150
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
I just can't wrap my head around ever needing a 0W anything unless you live in the middle of Antarctica on the East Antarctic Plateau. The 0W is coming out of my Honda next oil change and being replaced with 5W20.
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#4502376 - 08/30/17 02:47 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: parshisa]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1267
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
Originally Posted By: parshisa
Fuel dilution doesn't care whether the oil is API certified or not. I ran Amsoil SS which is on a heavy side and POA/Ester based and it still diluted badly just in 5K. another 2c
What vehicle?

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#4502386 - 08/30/17 02:51 PM Re: Oil for 2017 Honda Civic Type-R [Re: iLovePho]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1220
Loc: Oregon
If you're sticking with 0W-20, I would run only the best: Redline, Amsoil, M1 EP, PUP, Motul 8100. And I would definitely consider running a 5W-30 at the track. I also wouldn't recommend anything past 5k miles with the fuel dilution that is likely to ensue.

If I had to pick an oil to run in that engine, it would be Redline 0W-30.


Edited by 1JZ_E46 (08/30/17 02:53 PM)
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