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#4502066 - 08/30/17 08:22 AM Evolution of Motorcycles
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#4502094 - 08/30/17 08:53 AM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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Sorry, 1960-1990 has wrong profile. Should be the left out profile of the UJMC (Universal Japanese Motor Cycle) as in transverse mounted four cylinder ...

Gear shifter invented long before 1978. Honda even had an automatic as an option before 1978 ...

The overall concept is good smile


Edited by BrocLuno (08/30/17 08:57 AM)
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#4502165 - 08/30/17 10:03 AM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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I love motorcycles, but if cars were developed at the the same rate, most would still be stuck in the 50s.
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#4502245 - 08/30/17 12:02 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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Forgot Moto Guzzi launches, 1921.

Also forgot the dark days of the AMF ownership of HD.
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#4502261 - 08/30/17 12:24 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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In 1960 a British journalist wrote an article about the 1960 Triumph Bonneville 650cc motorcycle. It weighed just under 400 pounds and had 40 horsepower. His conclusion was that no one could possibly need a lighter bike with more power. He considered this bike to be the ultimate thrill for anyone brave enough to attempt to ride it to its full potential. This bike was inexpensive enough to be within the reach of any young man with the desire to own it. This young person would probably never run into someone with one of the very rare bikes that were faster and the same could be said for automobiles as well.

Things have changed a bit over the years.

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#4502267 - 08/30/17 12:28 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: KrisZ]
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Registered: 04/16/17
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I love motorcycles, but if cars were developed at the the same rate, most would still be stuck in the 50s.


Some worse than that . . . HD is stuck in the late 1930s. On the other hand, if bikes developed like cars, they'd have all wheel drive with power assist added to the anti-lock brakes, traction control, climate control, electrically adjustable saddles, handle bars, mirrors, and foot controls. We'd have air bags and saddle belts.

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#4502293 - 08/30/17 01:14 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: BrocLuno]
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Sorry, 1960-1990 has wrong profile. Should be the left out profile of the UJMC (Universal Japanese Motor Cycle) as in transverse mounted four cylinder ...

Gear shifter invented long before 1978. Honda even had an automatic as an option before 1978 ...

The overall concept is good smile
With out the Japanese M/C we would still be driving 40 horsepower Triumph/BSA type motorcycles.
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#4502302 - 08/30/17 01:25 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: HouseTiger]
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Originally Posted By: HouseTiger
On the other hand, if bikes developed like cars, they'd have all wheel drive with power assist added to the anti-lock brakes, traction control, climate control, electrically adjustable saddles, handle bars, mirrors, and foot controls. We'd have air bags and saddle belts.

I'm glad they haven't developed to that level. Where modern bikes are right now with technology like TC, antilock brakes, engine modes and adjustible suspension is plenty enough for me.

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#4502319 - 08/30/17 01:54 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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2003 fits motorcycle airbag? How is that a monumental change. Who cares.

How about 1980 Honda CBX goes from points and condensers to solid state ignition. This was a huge change for motorcycles.
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#4502339 - 08/30/17 02:15 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: KrisZ]
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I love motorcycles, but if cars were developed at the the same rate, most would still be stuck in the 50s.


I'd settle for 1967...
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#4502355 - 08/30/17 02:28 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: Alex_V]
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Originally Posted By: Alex_V
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
I love motorcycles, but if cars were developed at the the same rate, most would still be stuck in the 50s.


I'd settle for 1967...


Great Post !
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#4502379 - 08/30/17 02:49 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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Where most motorcycles are behind in technology is the lack of offering an automatic transmission. Most people want to shift their own gears on a bike, but most people wanna buy a vehicle with four wheels that has an automatic. Shifting a bike sucks compared to shifting a manual transmission in a car. I've owned plenty of motorcycles in my lifetime. Honda has a few bikes with a true automatic, Harley and most everyone else doesn't.
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#4502403 - 08/30/17 03:02 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: motorcycler]
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Nice post and interesting timeline.

But what about...

Norton
BSA
Brough
KTM
Ducati
Moto Guzzi
Ural

Just to name a few.
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#4502408 - 08/30/17 03:07 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: LoneRanger]
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger


Also forgot the dark days of the AMF ownership of HD.


Lots of folks say that but AMF actually provided the impetus and the funding to develop the Evolution engine that saved Harley Davidson.
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#4502459 - 08/30/17 03:51 PM Re: Evolution of Motorcycles [Re: Brybo86]
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Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
2003 fits motorcycle airbag? How is that a monumental change. Who cares.

How about 1980 Honda CBX goes from points and condensers to solid state ignition. This was a huge change for motorcycles.
The 1969 Kawasaki Mach III had CDI ignition and surface gap plugs.
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