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13 year old oil filter safe to use? #4502029
08/30/17 07:34 AM
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Bought off Ebay a factory sealed AC Delco PF2057 12 pack of oil filters. Realized after the fact the seller was selling off a bunch of NOS GM parts from a closed dealership. Like I mentioned, the case was still taped sealed from the factory. Inspection of all the filters showed no visible rust. ADBV and o-ring while looking a little chalky from age, still pliable and not cracked. Looks to be a Champion Labs made filter.

Would you run it?


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2017 Jeep Renegade 2.4L (Idemitsu 0W-20)

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502034
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Not unless I was in a serious bind. The media could be completely brittle by now.

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502053
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Nope , not worth the chance something inside is going to come apart. Pitch them and lesson learned IMO




Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502058
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I get real nervous after about 3 years......

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502075
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Filters are cheap. Get a new one and cut the old one.

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502080
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Cut one, run the other eleven.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: rooflessVW] #4502092
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Cut one, run the other eleven.


That is what I am thinking. I have run a 10 year old filter before with no issue and seen a 18 year old one run with no problems on a friends vehicle.

I will cut one open later tonight after work and post pics.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502095
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If the guys ebay description didn't say 13 year old filters I would return them. No sure what NOS covers.

Weight the pros and cons. Pro you feel good you didnt waste a some money of junk. Con: The filter comes apart and floods your motor with filter elements and plugs every passage leading to massive engine failure. Even with BITOG approved oil. smile

I'd put an orange Fram on long before doing that.

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502112
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Thinking about it, there aren't many parts I'd want to use that have been sitting for 13 years.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502118
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If you do cut one open, take a lot of pictures and post them here.

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Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
If you do cut one open, take a lot of pictures and post them here.


I had second thoughts and just request a full refund from the Ebay seller. He offered a partial refund but I pushed back and declined.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: rooflessVW] #4502122
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Cut one, run the other eleven.

What I would do as well, and not run a long interval regardless of what is found.
A fresh cut open would give you a decent idea of media integrity and ADV condition, but in use may be different that new.


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2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502169
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I installed a 10+ year old OEM filter made in Japan. The filter was wrapped in plastic. No problems to report. Sifting through the numerous threads on BITOG, the opinions are mixed. Those who say it's okay to use older stock have tried it themselves and reported no issues. Those who haven't tried it are in the "don't use it" camp. In my opinion, much of it will depend on how the filters are/were stored.

Based on your description, I would use it, but not for an extended OCI.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502185
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Frankly it would probably be just fine but think of the improvements made in filters over the last 5 to 8 years. From the older 95% minus filters to the newer 99% plus filters. I have a couple of 4 year old Fram 95% cans I'm not going to use just because there are so many better cans out there today.


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Re: 13 year old oil filter safe to use? [Re: Hootbro] #4502191
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How do you know it's 13 years old? I'm pretty sure they don't have parts sitting that long at a dealership. Also most filters have a date code on them.


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