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Question on QSUD PDS #4501987
08/30/17 05:47 AM
08/30/17 05:47 AM
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I posted this in the QSUD 'Clearance' thread but it didn't get a response. I'm wondering if I should buy the 2 5qt jugs of 10w30 at my local AA based on these PDS.

If these PDS are correct, the 10w30 is thinner at 100*C and has a lower pour point than the 5w30? Is this a mistake?

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf


http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502038
08/30/17 06:42 AM
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Please leave some 10w30 for me to buy !

Thats a good oil. I wud buy it. The 5w30 is latest dexos so it will have hths of around 3.5 i think so it will be thicker at 100c. I also think the pour point of 5w30 is higher. But it has lower ccs and mrv which are more important.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: merconvvv] #4502044
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Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Please leave some 10w30 for me to buy !

Thats a good oil. I wud buy it. The 5w30 is latest dexos so it will have hths of around 3.5 i think so it will be thicker at 100c. I also think the pour point of 5w30 is higher. But it has lower ccs and mrv which are more important.



The HTHS of the 5w-30 will not be near 3.5, maybe 3.2 at most since it is resource conserving.


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502064
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That is too much detail for me to worry about. UOAs have been proven that it does well.

Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502074
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So do you guys think these PDS are correct with the 10w30 have a PP of -51*C and the 5w30 having only -42*C?


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502085
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I ran it last OCI competes well or better than my latest darling MAGNATEC. My jug was purchased in the new "laundry detergent-style" container so I assume it was a "fresh" batch.

The 10w30 is NOT Dexos 1 IIRC - which I like since I can PRETEND I don't need or want excessive detergency to prevent turbo coking and I might get more fancy moly. Plus Ill take the extra GTL stock to give me a near PAO pour point smile

I will say I thinned the Rogues' sump with a substituted 1/2 qt of QSUD 5w20 to get my VVT phaser in the right realm for daily driving.

Its Gud Earl! - I wouldn't hesitate grabbing sum moore.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502128
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Thanks brother bitoger !

I just scored 3 jugs at 8 something a piece.


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502131
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Originally Posted By: pbm
I posted this in the QSUD 'Clearance' thread but it didn't get a response. I'm wondering if I should buy the 2 5qt jugs of 10w30 at my local AA based on these PDS.

If these PDS are correct, the 10w30 is thinner at 100*C and has a lower pour point than the 5w30? Is this a mistake?

http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf


http://www.quakerstate.com/en_us/product..._Motor_Oil_.pdf


I just made a OCI using the Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-30 my Toyota Corolla seems to be liking it. I don't have a AAP store near me or I would pick up a couple more Jugs.


2004 Corolla 126884
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502140
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Ya the price listed on the shelves is incorrect for the 5 quart jugs of qsud. It said like 18 or something. I took it to the counter and told them to scan it. It sure did show up 8.45

Surprise surprise even the aap worker !!

Ya i would stash up but the rebate max is 3 if u want it bearly free smile


1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4502173
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Originally Posted By: pbm
So do you guys think these PDS are correct with the 10w30 have a PP of -51*C and the 5w30 having only -42*C?


It wouldn't surprise me, pour point does not seem to have much of a correlation to CCS and MRV test results.


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: merconvvv] #4502239
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Originally Posted By: merconvvv
Ya the price listed on the shelves is incorrect for the 5 quart jugs of qsud. It said like 18 or something. I took it to the counter and told them to scan it. It sure did show up 8.45

Surprise surprise even the aap worker !!

Ya i would stash up but the rebate max is 3 if u want it bearly free smile


Exactly, the checkout clerk had to call "someone" when he saw the total. He thought he did something wrong. But as stated in the other thread, not all of the stores have it for $8/jug. I was able to get 3 jugs for $10 ea. at one store and 2 jugs for $8 ea. at another.


18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: Mobil1 Annual Protection 5W20 + Mobil1-104A + e air WIX10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: Mobil1 Extended Performance 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX49670

Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: volk06] #4502393
08/30/17 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: volk06
The HTHS of the 5w-30 will not be near 3.5, maybe 3.2 at most since it is resource conserving.

I think it's closer to 3.0 on that product, last time they published a value. If it were dexos2, rather than dexos1, that would be another matter altogether, but it's not.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4526955
09/26/17 05:11 PM
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I found 2 more jugs of the 10w30 QSUD for $8.45 so I now have 4 jugs. Do you think this oil will work well at NY winter temps that can get near 0*F..? They were all out of 5w30.


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4526966
09/26/17 05:26 PM
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Yeah a 10w30 would be all right at 0F. The 10w30 is tested at -25C which is around -13F. A synthetic 10w30 would really be just fine around 0F. I bet even down to -20F outside it would probably be ok. Below that I'd want a 5w30 in there for sure.


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Re: Question on QSUD PDS [Re: pbm] #4527045
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Full syn 10w-30 is good stuff


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