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Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article #4500712
08/28/17 07:18 PM
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Kendall, FL
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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500719
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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500732
08/28/17 07:34 PM
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Hmmn. When I needed 1/2" lugnuts for the Rat, All I could get was the 2 piece nuts. They're terrible.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500734
08/28/17 07:36 PM
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It's not just the Ford ones that are a problem. Chrysler, GM, Toyota, or anything that uses the POS 2 piece lug nuts are a problem. I had to buy a 19.5mm, 21.5mm, and a 23mm socket to deal with some of them, and even then it is not easy once they have been abused, and over torqued a few times. After you beat a socket on the nut, then you have to beat on them some more to get the socket off. I hate them!!! Then if the cover is missing you have a new problem.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500743
08/28/17 07:47 PM
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Yep on my 2007 focus I had to have 2 different sizes if you completely removed the cap it was 1mm smaller

IIRC 19mm and 18mm ?

Just normal torque would damage them.. once they started "Swelling" and separating.

Of course this is nothing new even my new 2017 cherokee has goofy "2 piece" ones that are damaged very easily if you dont get the socket all the way down..

like jimbo the tire rotation chimp at the dealer.

Boom didnt get one quite all the way down and torqued lugbolt.. now it doesnt fit in the socket and gets stuck from being deformed.

The fix it to get aftermarket lugbolts instead of the $8 dealer part that is shiny but inferior construction.

Gee thanks jimbo for that complementary damage to go with my complementary first tire rotation.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500750
08/28/17 07:59 PM
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My mom had an 03' Focus with these junk lug nuts. Constantly breaking the outer cap off while rotating tires and working on the car.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500759
08/28/17 08:03 PM
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What was the need for these? There must be logical explanation, yes?


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500801
08/28/17 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: wemay
What was the need for these? There must be logical explanation, yes?

Cosmetics


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500812
08/28/17 09:08 PM
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Yeah they s=ck but why put up with them? Spend $30 for a set of Gorilla Lug Nuts and eliminate the aggravation. Money well spent. Or wait years for the class action to come around.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500824
08/28/17 09:17 PM
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Buy splined nuts and be done with it. Cheap and easy.

Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500839
08/28/17 09:31 PM
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One of the worst ideas in cars and more than Ford are guilty of it. You know who is not? German cars. Bolts for the win.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500850
08/28/17 09:51 PM
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I threw mine away and replaced them with 1 piece lugnuts from McGard. Did it on both my Mustang and my mom's Fusion. Got a few people at work to do it also.


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500864
08/28/17 10:28 PM
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Jimmeny I'm glad I don't own anything that new ...


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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: wemay] #4500887
08/28/17 11:13 PM
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Had the problem with Chryslers when I was doing tire shop. Would turn a 19mm into a 18mm that I didnt have a socket for. I dont think they delam from anything but impact guns. The pictures in that article look to me like ones that have had a few go arounds with an impact.

And yeah, its for looks and cost. Solid lug nuts that are shiny are pricy. Taking a steel lugnut and slapping a stainless cap over it is cheaper and gives the good look.
But you HAVE to make sure you have full engagement of the nut before you pull the trigger on the impact. The cap extends over the top of the actual steel nut leaving the top 10% or so looking like a nut but only sheet metal. You can't 'NASCAR' them, you will hook the portion that is unsupported and spin the cap on the nut, then you're [censored].

Last edited by Colt45ws; 08/28/17 11:17 PM.

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Re: Ford's swollen lug nuts issue / C&D article [Re: Srt20] #4500963
08/29/17 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: Srt20
Buy splined nuts and be done with it. Cheap and easy.

Those aren't any better since they take a special very thin wall socket. Those, along with locking lug nuts are easily destroyed with an impact wrench. Of all the OE lug nuts I've dealt with the GM ones with the screw on caps hold up the best. Otherwise a 1 piece quality steel acorn style nut is good too, unless the chrome peels.

Last edited by Traction; 08/29/17 04:44 AM.

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