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#4499588 - 08/27/17 04:30 PM What is the "worst" oil?
EyesofThunder Offline


Registered: 02/24/10
Posts: 79
Loc: North Central Illinois
So in the world of oil, assuming proper grade and specification, what is the WORST oil that you have seen?

Everyone is looking for the best oil, but lets look at the other end of the spectrum. Like std Fram oil filters are arguably the worst oil filter design, there has to be an oil out there that everyone considers the one to avoid.

Any thoughts?

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#4499599 - 08/27/17 04:42 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
Nick1994 Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 10102
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
We gotta focus on the facts, and saying Fram filters are anywhere near the worst design is completely false. Stop spreading lies.

Oil is oil, unless it's the stuff from the dollar store or no-name gas station oil.
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#4499600 - 08/27/17 04:42 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Anything on PQIA's "don't buy" and "consumer alert" list.
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#4499605 - 08/27/17 04:48 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: Quattro Pete]
Farmer Offline


Registered: 08/05/15
Posts: 1111
Loc: BC Canada
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Anything on PQIA's "don't buy" and "consumer alert" list.


I was just going to mention that. :P

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#4499609 - 08/27/17 04:55 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7664
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: EyesofThunder
So in the world of oil, assuming proper grade and specification, what is the WORST oil that you have seen?

Everyone is looking for the best oil, but lets look at the other end of the spectrum. Like std Fram oil filters are arguably the worst oil filter design, there has to be an oil out there that everyone considers the one to avoid.

Any thoughts?

You misspelled "Purolator"! I agree that any c-store oil that doesn't carry a current API approval should be on the "worst" list.
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#4499611 - 08/27/17 04:59 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
burla Offline


Registered: 11/07/16
Posts: 255
Loc: sonoma
I just bought 6 fram ultras for the wife's car, great filter.

I don't like the non moly oils, RP, Valvoline, Super Tech and all of the others as well. Personal preference. moly cam wear pdf page 11

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#4499614 - 08/27/17 05:03 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5236
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
The orange can hate needs to stop.

What a lot of people do not know about the orange can, is that for some old applications, it is literally the only oil filter left that fits some engines.

I have seen tons of old engines years and years past their service life that are still kicking on the orange can.

In opening orange cans, I have seen some really ugly filters, but have never seen a problem, other than ADBV having hardened.

It's a cheap product that is made cheap. Made poorly? No.
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#4499621 - 08/27/17 05:10 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: DoubleWasp]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5514
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
The orange can hate needs to stop.

What a lot of people do not know about the orange can, is that for some old applications, it is literally the only oil filter left that fits some engines.

I have seen tons of old engines years and years past their service life that are still kicking on the orange can.

In opening orange cans, I have seen some really ugly filters, but have never seen a problem, other than ADBV having hardened.

It's a cheap product that is made cheap. Made poorly? No.


+1

There are worst filters, and there are bad batches of anything made. No point in kicking one of the market leaders ...
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#4499623 - 08/27/17 05:15 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 15693
Loc: OH
There are some bad oils out there on store shelves, but PQIA has played a pivotal role in helping to get them out of circulation.
Any name brand or chain store house brand will do just fine.
While I may prefer some to others, any one of these will work without issue.
Bad oils are the exception while good and serviceable oils are the rule.
Also, the worst oil for an IC engine might be an ND 30 while that might be the best choice for an air compressor.
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#4499642 - 08/27/17 05:34 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5236
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
I think any oil that says "for top off only" is probably right up the alley of the "worst".
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#4499644 - 08/27/17 05:37 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Registered: 04/04/12
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Loc: Southeast Florida
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Anything on PQIA's "don't buy" and "consumer alert" list.


+1
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#4499649 - 08/27/17 05:48 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2038
Loc: Slovenia
Valvoline maxlife 15w40....my ex car burnt it in no time
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#4499658 - 08/27/17 06:11 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7479
Loc: S California
Has "worst engine oil" been defined?

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#4499660 - 08/27/17 06:11 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20455
Loc: Upstate NY
Any oil with MMO added!!
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#4499661 - 08/27/17 06:11 PM Re: What is the "worst" oil? [Re: EyesofThunder]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Any oil that claims API SN and has the starburst is adequate. No API starburst, buyer beware.

Contaminated oil would be the worst I think
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