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VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN #4499328
08/27/17 10:22 AM
08/27/17 10:22 AM
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53' Stude Online content OP
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I nabbed one of the 2 of this # filter at Wal Mart this morning for 50cents smile

Enjoy the pictures folks
















09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499331
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09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499343
08/27/17 10:29 AM
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Looks a bit crusty. The outside quality on these were brilliant and better than the Ultras I had. But inside i wasn't impressed. Not a bad filter but no bargain either.
Ultras are king. Thanks for the pictures!!

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499347
08/27/17 10:34 AM
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Yep, I fail to see what's so tough about it. Looks like a bargain basement filter-- that alone isn't a bad thing (it certainly doesn't look so bad that I'd worry about it failing), but for the normal price of these, you just don't get your money's worth.

I've used them a handful of times and never had any problems.


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 92saturnsl2] #4499351
08/27/17 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: 92saturnsl2
Yep, I fail to see what's so tough about it. Looks like a bargain basement filter-- that alone isn't a bad thing (it certainly doesn't look so bad that I'd worry about it failing), but for the normal price of these, you just don't get your money's worth.

I've used them a handful of times and never had any problems.


For 50cents and the age of the filter I ain't complaining


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499382
08/27/17 11:27 AM
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It's not very old per the date code.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499444
08/27/17 01:04 PM
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The 99% @ 20 micron efficiency is tough to find at the regular price of a TG.

Good looks or not, that filter is still kicking the competition.


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499453
08/27/17 01:11 PM
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smile


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499458
08/27/17 01:15 PM
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california
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Thank you for the time and effort to show the filters. I think the filter hits all the marks well except one. The excess glue or whatever stained the filter shows where the baseplate seals to the ADBV. Two or three of the inlet holes, shown in the bottom of the fifth picture down, have hole edges which are at or near the sealing surface edges. Too close IMO, and it's been seen before. I think it could leak. The only real defect seems to me, except the strange deposits on this particular sample.
It looks like the nub centering method has the ADBV off to one side a bit on this one. More sealing space on one side than the other, by a lot.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: goodtimes] #4499478
08/27/17 01:40 PM
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^^^ The 3rd and 5th photos show the ADBV seals outside the hole circumference. Even if it's not perfectly centered, looks like still enough area to seal. It looks pretty centered in photo #3.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499514
08/27/17 02:33 PM
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Yeah Zee0Six is correct. 3rd pic: what you see is exactly what I saw when I pulled baseplate from filter can. Looks good to me smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499526
08/27/17 02:49 PM
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Looks waaaaaaay better than the last PH8A I cut open. The last few Frams I've seen on here finally seem to have addressed the lack of media issue.


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: ZeeOSix] #4499635
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california
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
^^^ The 3rd and 5th photos show the ADBV seals outside the hole circumference. Even if it's not perfectly centered, looks like still enough area to seal. It looks pretty centered in photo #3.


I was looking at the inside seal, #5, where the ADBV seals the center tube. It's pretty extreme on this one I would say, the off center. The holes on one side almost go past the seal. That would leak oil from the inlet to the outlet. Probably still enough rubber to seal, but who knows, it isn't centered well is what I am saying. That is something the nub center system, especially with fiber nubs is a little different on than an ADBV that centers perfectly around a collar.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499680
08/27/17 06:34 PM
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Florida, Cape Coral
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Another good looking Fram.


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM TG8A CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4499683
08/27/17 06:36 PM
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Washington, USA
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Wow... they start ugly and end ugly. But they seem to last.


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