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Why the hate for Royal Purple? #4498624
08/26/17 11:44 AM
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I'm curious why there are 1. plenty of negative comments about Royal Purple on here 2. not more people here that use it.

In comparison to other specialty oil brands like Amsoil and Redline, it's easier to get (for example, you can find regular Royal Purple on the shelf at O'Reilly auto parts and order special versions like HPS, HMX, etc for the next day) and it's price competitive or cheaper. I just switched over it and and on the 2nd Royal Purple OCI for both my vehicles I intend to send UOAs to Blackstone so I'll be able to decide whether I should continue using it or not, but in the mean time I'm curious why y'all don't like it?

Thanks for any input.

PS: It's purple, how awesome is that?

Last edited by dogememe; 08/26/17 11:49 AM.

2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~126K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~84K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo.
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498635
08/26/17 11:57 AM
08/26/17 11:57 AM
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its expensive. Ive used it. No complaints.


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: E150GT] #4498643
08/26/17 12:09 PM
08/26/17 12:09 PM
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Mainly cost.
Another bone to pick - last year I switched to using the HPM version in my outboard motor.
I wanted to use it again this year - can't be found ...

Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498654
08/26/17 12:26 PM
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When I find it on sale and its under $23 I'll buy it!


2004 Corolla 124642
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498655
08/26/17 12:27 PM
08/26/17 12:27 PM
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Good oil, but cost and availability are why I don't buy it.


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1998 Nissan Frontier XE 2.4L, Castrol GTX HM 5W-30, M1 filter
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498661
08/26/17 12:34 PM
08/26/17 12:34 PM
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basically, it's ust overpriced for what it is...

and the purple is a gimmick, the colorant goes away quickly in use.

and i'm a guy who loves a good purple gimmick.
i write this with a bottle of Elmer's glue on my desk, that goes on purple, and dries clear.

Last edited by earlyre; 08/26/17 12:36 PM.

Mine:
09 Mercury Sable : 6qts AutoQuest(Meijer/Warren) 0w20, WIX 51516
Mine to Maintain:
03 Pontiac Vibe : 4.5qts VWB 5w30,WIX 51394
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498663
08/26/17 12:36 PM
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I don't think it's "hate" per se, but there is no ROI for the expense with RP.In other words, there are many other oils that provide the same or better results with much less investment.

P.S.
Schaeffer Oil is GREEN, how awesome is that?
Pennzoil (Havoline, Mobil, P66, Valvoline) is GOLD how awesome is that?


Last edited by beanoil; 08/26/17 12:40 PM.

beanoil: Tough under heat, real dirty afterwards.
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498670
08/26/17 12:43 PM
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I don't dislike RP at all.

The oil is overpriced for the job that it does. There are many good oils out there that can do the job as good for a cheaper price.




Last edited by Timo325; 08/26/17 12:51 PM. Reason: Grammar

2011 Odyssey Touring Elite 80k mi. M1 EP, 0W-20, FU
2008 Mustang GT 81k mi. Edge EP (Gold) 5W-20, FU

Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498671
08/26/17 12:45 PM
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Because most cars are sold today because the creature comforts are falling apart (seats, headliners, door handles, AC, paint, etc)

Insufficient engine oil related problems are rare unless the engine is abused like rarely changing the oil, allowing it to leak below the dipstick before topping it off, or running a completely inappropriate oil like super thick oil in an engine that needs thin or vice versa.

I haven't seen a single study that proved an engine lasted longer when running brand X vs Brand Y with proper OCI.

RP is good oil but there are also other good oils that costs far less.

Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498676
08/26/17 12:49 PM
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Right, when it was on clearance at Autozone for $2 a quart it's fine. But why go out of your way to pay for an expensive oil when just using the right oil speced by the manufacturer is more than enough? The engine is usually the last thing that will die on a car and the oil doesn't really matter that much these days. It will either rust apart or the transmission will die or it will have too much deferred maintenance. Only time the engine dies is if it's a design defect by the manufacturer and using an expensive oil isn't going to help.

Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: Timo325] #4498678
08/26/17 12:52 PM
08/26/17 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Timo325
I don't dislike RP at all.

The oil is overpriced for the job that it does. There are many good oils out there that can do the job as good for a cheaper price.


Same here.....

I ONLY buy RP when it goes on CLEARANCE


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498679
08/26/17 12:55 PM
08/26/17 12:55 PM
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Ever since RP went with API approved oils, they've taken a back seat to Red Line, no question. It's hard to pay double M1 prices (after rebate), or triple QSUD prices (also AR), for a Group III based oil! But-their HPS is still pretty good, when you can find it.


06 Ram 3500 CTD 4X4(FG Venturi), 93 GMC C3500 6.2, 89 F-450 7.3, 98 XJ 4.0(XG8A), 05 xB(XG3600), 18 Transit 3.7, 03 Merc Grand Marquis 4.6 2V(XG2)
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: Wolf359] #4498684
08/26/17 12:59 PM
08/26/17 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: danez_yoda

I haven't seen a single study that proved an engine lasted longer when running brand X vs Brand Y with proper OCI.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Only time the engine dies is if it's a design defect by the manufacturer and using an expensive oil isn't going to help.


Wrong on both counts when it comes to heavy towing.

I have had piston rings get stuck (more like *welded*) in the lands due to excessive piston ring pack heat when worked hard towing heavy loads.

Granted - this is a situation that 99%(or more) of the people on here never encounter.

In situations like that, an oil that can handle higher temperatures is needed.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498688
08/26/17 01:07 PM
08/26/17 01:07 PM
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Imo,they got sucky when they sold out to a corporation and were no longer a premium exotic boutique. They removed the moly,zddp,and Synerlec.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Why the hate for Royal Purple? [Re: dogememe] #4498689
08/26/17 01:09 PM
08/26/17 01:09 PM
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Indiana
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Indiana
No hate, just ignoring due to the value equation.
It sits on the shelf at WM next to the Mobil 1 Annual, gathering dust.

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