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Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda #4498077
08/25/17 06:23 PM
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Chester11 Offline OP
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Hi guys:

It's time to replace brake fluid again. I noticed that the Valvoline fluid is Dot 3 or 4. How is that possible? I always read that the two could not be mixed.

Also - the Honda manual specifically recommends Honda Heavy Duty fluid. What are you folks doing in this regard?

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498098
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A reputable DOT 3 or DOT 4 are fine. Boiling points in DOT 4 are a bit higher than DOT 3, but DOT 3 is fine for daily driving. DOT 3 will absorb water faster than DOT 4 and DOT 5.1 so it may need changed more often. DOT 5 is a fluid with silicone and you do not want that in your system. Stick with DOT 3 or 4 and you will be fine. DOT 5.1 is a more race oriented fluid.

DOT 3: fine for daily driving
DOT 4: good for daily driving, slightly higher boiling point.
DOT 5.1: racing oriented fluid, unnecessary for daily driving.

DOT 5: fluid with silicone content and not to be used in systems unless specifically specified. Also not for use in ABS systems.


2016 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 5.3
2017 Honda CR-V 2.4
Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498099
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The only difference between DOT 3 and DOT 4 is the dry boiling point. DOT 5 is incompatible with DOTs 3+4. Now there's a DOT 5.1 That will mix with 3+4, but NOT 5.


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Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498122
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I use it in my Honda, good stuff, price is good, spec is good and it works great


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Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498135
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Any DOT 3 or DOT 4 is fine smile

Regular fluid changes are MUCH more important than what brand you actually use. Even Walmart DOT3 is fine as long as you replace it regularly.

That said, Castrol DOT 4 brake fluid (formerly LMA) is supposed to absorb moisture more slowly, allowing for longer service life. LMA actually stands for Low Moisture Activity (Castrol doesn't call it LMA anymore, but the fluid itself is the same). It can be used wherever DOT 3 or DOT 4 is called for. Boiling points are 509 dry, 329 wet.

Autozone has Bosch brake fluid that's supposed to be good, High boiling points, low viscosity, which is good for ABS systems.

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498141
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My latest Honda brake flush I used 'Prestone DOT3 High Temperature Synthetic' BF from Walmart. Ordered online for store pick up, only $1.71 12oz bottle. I bought 3 bottles, took ~2&1/2.

Any DOT3 or DOT4 will work. And they can be mixed. Valvoline DOT3/4 also an option.


Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498206
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See this post that explains the difference between DOT 3 & DOT 4.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...be_#Post4137864


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Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498255
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I've used Valvoline DOT 3/4 in all my vehicles. Hondas call for DOT 3, motorcycles want DOT 4. No issues!

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498306
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Originally Posted By: Chester11
Hi guys:

It's time to replace brake fluid again. I noticed that the Valvoline fluid is Dot 3 or 4. How is that possible? I always read that the two could not be mixed.

Also - the Honda manual specifically recommends Honda Heavy Duty fluid. What are you folks doing in this regard?

What Honda considers heavy duty? What Honda is it? Do you do a lot of mountain driving?
Valvoline will be fine for some grocery getting, school pick up, basically daily driving.
I use Valvoline to clean my vacuum pump before I change fluid on my vehicles smile


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498372
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I would personally just buy what the car requires and avoid the Valvoline DOT 3/4 stuff. Plenty of "real" options out there.

If I had to use it, I would be more inclined to run it in a DOT3 requiring vehicle. My .02.


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02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498488
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What is everybody using to replace there brake fluid ??


2013 Malibu 2LT M1 5w30
2013 Accord Sport M1 AP 0w20
Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Chester11] #4498502
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Hello always used prestone or valvoline brake fluid in my truck. but 2 weeks ago used LUCAS DOT 3 brake fluid it made a big difference better pedal feel and the truck stops better with less pedal pressure .lucas dot 3 at autozone.

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Ram02] #4498733
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Garak Online content
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Originally Posted By: Ram02
What is everybody using to replace there brake fluid ??

I use Castrol LMA DOT 4. At like $4 a pint, it's impossible to beat here.


Plain, simple Garak.

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1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Ram02] #4498933
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Chester11 Offline OP
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Thanks all. After hitting up Walmart and Autozone - I got annoyed that filters were not in stock and went to the Honda dealer.

32oz of Honda fluid was $11. 12oz was $6 - so it was pretty much a no brainer to pick up everything in one place.

Re: Valvoline Brake fluid / Honda [Re: Ram02] #4499102
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Originally Posted By: Ram02
What is everybody using to replace there brake fluid ??

ATE TYP200.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
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