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M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. #4497513
08/25/17 07:30 AM
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2009 Scion xB. Had Mobil 1 15w50 oil in the sump. During a drive the cheap magnetic drain plug got lose and oil was lost. Took 4 quarts to get back to the full line on the dipstick, after replacing a drain plug. Oil that was added is STP 0w20. Oil filter still had almost 1qt of M1 15w50. This combination was in use for 7k miles with lots of stop&go and extensive idling.




2000 Lexus GS300-361k
1999 Lexus GS400-213k
2006 Toyota Camry-187k
2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid-125k
2009 Scion xB-120k
2013 VW Tiguan-120k
2009 Toyota Tacoma-60k
Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Vladiator] #4497518
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What filter are you using that holds a quart? Mine would be lucky to hold a cup



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Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Vladiator] #4497526
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Likely had some bearing wear, but overall I'd say you got lucky. I'd stick with a heavier oil from here on out - at least a 5W-30 until you get a handle on how the bearing wear is progressing.


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Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Vladiator] #4497534
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Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: bioburner] #4497553
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Originally Posted By: bioburner
What filter are you using that holds a quart? Mine would be lucky to hold a cup
M1-209. I prefill it every time before putting it on the car and it swallows the 1qt bottle almost completely. 0.8qt or so.


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2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid-125k
2009 Scion xB-120k
2013 VW Tiguan-120k
2009 Toyota Tacoma-60k
Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: bigt61] #4497559
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Originally Posted By: bigt61
Likely had some bearing wear, but overall I'd say you got lucky. I'd stick with a heavier oil from here on out - at least a 5W-30 until you get a handle on how the bearing wear is progressing.
I will stick with various synthetic 5w30s from my stash, and then will move onto the 0w40 stash.


2000 Lexus GS300-361k
1999 Lexus GS400-213k
2006 Toyota Camry-187k
2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid-125k
2009 Scion xB-120k
2013 VW Tiguan-120k
2009 Toyota Tacoma-60k
Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Vladiator] #4499015
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Maybe you should consider having a professional change your oil. Clearly DIY is a dangerous move, what with drain plugs falling out randomly and all. duh no-no


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Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Artem] #4732760
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Originally Posted By: Artem
Maybe you should consider having a professional change your oil. Clearly DIY is a dangerous move, what with drain plugs falling out randomly and all. duh no-no
Ha-ha. I haven't revisited this thread since August 25th, but I appreciate your thoughtful reply.
This thread below explains in detail why this failure happened. Long story short: anodized aluminum drain plug from Amazon failed due to being a very soft metal. Steel drain plug that replaced it is still going strong and never set itself loose.
Again, thank you for your helpful feedback, I will definitely consider it.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...re.#Post4460753


2000 Lexus GS300-361k
1999 Lexus GS400-213k
2006 Toyota Camry-187k
2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid-125k
2009 Scion xB-120k
2013 VW Tiguan-120k
2009 Toyota Tacoma-60k
Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: Vladiator] #4732895
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That's why I don't trust Amazon/eBay to keep me safe on the road.


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Re: M1 15w50/STP 0w20, 7k, Scion xB, ran w/out oil. [Re: camrydriver111] #4733633
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Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
That's why I don't trust Amazon/eBay to keep me safe on the road.


And why I’d never trust a “fumoto” valve. That little plug is the only thing protecting your engine from complete destruction.


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