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F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix #4496895
08/24/17 11:49 AM
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F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix

US TV Times:
Practice 1, Friday August 25th, 4:00AM EST , NBC Sports Live Extra
Practice 2, Friday August 25th, 8:00AM EST , NBCSN
Practice 3, Saturday August 26th, 5:00AM EST , NBC Sports Live Extra
Qualifying, Saturday August 26th, 8:00AM EST , CNBC
Race, Sunday August 27th, 8:00AM EST , NBCSN

Standings:
Drivers
1. Sebastian Vettel, 202
2. Lewis Hamilton, 188
3. Valtteri Bottas, 169
4. Daniel Ricciardo, 117
5. Kimi Raikkonen, 116
Constructors
1. Mercedes AMG Petronas, 357
2. Scuderia Ferrari, 318
3. Red Bull Racing, 184
4. Sahara Force India, 101
5. Williams Martini Racing, 41

For more, including track data, analysis, and video please check out my full post on For more, including track data, analysis, and video please check out my full post on TOV Motorsports.



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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4496914
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Here's hoping Lewis and Valtteri collect each other at Turn 1. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4496936
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I wonder by how much the lap record will be broken? Maybe half the corners will be flat now?


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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: Garak] #4496944
08/24/17 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: not Garak
Here's hoping Lewis and Vettel collect each other at Turn 1. wink

Fixed that for you.

Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4497073
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Going through the uphill sweeper on the first lap without lifting is necessary to keep from being passed but on the first lap with tires that might be less than race temperature and an engine also a bit less than racing temperature running full rich has got to be the thrill of a lifetime. And the drivers know that if they don't lift in traffic they are going to do somewhere very fast and can only hope that the line that is left for them is one that completes the corner and takes them into the next corner while staying on the tarmac. The drivers talk among themselves and it appears that they all agree to take care of each other for the time it takes to get the running order sorted out.

Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4497441
08/25/17 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Fixed that for you.

No, no, no. The prime concern is to maximise points for Seb in particular and Ferrari in general. In case Kimi is "laggard," the best way to do that would be for Lewis and Valtteri to collect each other at the start to guarantee a Ferrari 1-2. wink Paint the side of Lewis's car red, and Valtteri will barrel right into it.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4497631
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Ah, Spa. A real race track.


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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: Indydriver] #4497703
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Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Ah, Spa. A real race track.
+1

Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4498192
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I love Spa. I enjoy it greatly on GT6 and Project Cars. I have an older game that has the bus-stop. The new right-left section at pit in totally kills the flow.


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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4498454
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Someone clarify for me the limits of "grid penalty" for engine change etc. During qualy this am, it was mentioned that one driver has a 65 place grid penalty! Is this administered during one race even though there obviously aren't that many grid positions? Or does it carry over to other races meaning this driver would have to start at the back for 3-4 weeks (or more) to satisfy it? Stupid regulation either way.

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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4498647
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He starts at Pouhon.


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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: Indydriver] #4498720
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Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Someone clarify for me the limits of "grid penalty" for engine change etc. During qualy this am, it was mentioned that one driver has a 65 place grid penalty! Is this administered during one race even though there obviously aren't that many grid positions? Or does it carry over to other races meaning this driver would have to start at the back for 3-4 weeks (or more) to satisfy it? Stupid regulation either way.


He has to start at the back of the pack until the end of the 2167 season! If his career ends before then, the penalty will be passed off to the next generation driver / drivers. Welcome to the wonderful world of the FiA! grin

Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: Indydriver] #4498731
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Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Someone clarify for me the limits of "grid penalty" for engine change etc. During qualy this am, it was mentioned that one driver has a 65 place grid penalty! Is this administered during one race even though there obviously aren't that many grid positions? Or does it carry over to other races meaning this driver would have to start at the back for 3-4 weeks (or more) to satisfy it? Stupid regulation either way.

No, it doesn't, but they were carrying over for a while, when the rule first came out. The media stated that it was dumb and created a firestorm. FIA backed off and grid penalties more than the possible places just became penalties in name only, then Ron Dennis came up with the clever idea of opening several engines on a weekend to take dozens of grid places all at once, and not be punished down the road.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4499262
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I thought the new guys running the sport were going to get rid of all the silly gar-bage.

Once again, win the pole, win the race. No passes for the lead.

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Re: F1 - 2017 Belgian Grand Prix [Re: gofast182] #4499407
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I think that grid penalty puts him at the back of the grid at the British Grand Prix.
Time to rethink these grid penalties.

And what was up with when the DRS zones were activated?

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